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2013年2月9日星期六

日本泥棒帝国的谎言宣传家 @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

日本泥棒帝国的谎言宣传家,对内鼓吹"和平"的"弊害",要废除"和平宪法";而对中国人则欺诈说日本是"和平"国 家。>@suzunone 日本は安全で平和な国。 >@suzunone 平和すぎる国の弊害だな。平和憲法無くしたほうがいいかも。 @3taroid

这个网站上发言鼓吹"大日本帝国"军事进攻中国、韩国的,不是日本人?:) http://t.co/LXeF0Hsi http://t.co/KTkysD1a >@suzunone @shinjihi 今の日本人は「日本帝国」なんて不使用。今でも「日本帝国」と使っているのは白黒の古い映画と中国人位。

日文"泥棒",是"盗贼、恶人、強盗、匪徒、小偷、窃取"的意思。这个日本帝国主义和平骗子 @suzunone 用来骂中国人,可笑的是,"泥棒"的汉语发音恰好和"日本"的日文发音近似,所以"日本漆 Nippon Paint"被音译成"立邦漆"。 ;)

akid @akid_ 2012-08-26 08:47:45 UTC
匈牙利反犹先锋意外得知自己即是犹太人 http://t.cn/zWmxrXM 匈牙利极右翼政党"更好的匈牙利运动"重要成员塞吉迪遭"爆料",原来他的外祖父母都是犹太人———其外祖父是受奴役劳工,其外祖母则是奥斯威辛 集中营幸存者。这一发现令他大为尴尬,已被迫辞去党内职务。

永山英樹 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 2012-11-02 07:40:42 UTC
"中国の「沖縄人=中国人」論を覆した東大のDNA研究 "をブログ「台湾は日本の生命線」で。http://p.tl/zBN9 明らかになった沖縄血統が大陸系では ないとの事実は中共が展開中の「琉球回復・沖縄解放」宣伝工作を打ち破る強力な武器となろう。

lihlii @lihlii 2012-11-02 07:47:44 UTC 对话
看日本人对什么土地有野心就说是日本生命线。以前入侵朝鲜满洲东南亚说是日本生命线,现在说钓鱼岛是生命线,如今又说台湾是日本生命 线。>@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI "中国の「沖縄人=中国人」論を.…「台湾は日本の生命線」で。http://p.tl/zBN9

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-08 10:28:17 UTC
@T_7 教洋奴 @fred09g @renee339 @liudimouse 一个英文词,是给洋奴和右奴们的最贴切的名称。 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snob http://oxforddictionaries.com/words/what-is-the-origin-of-the-word-snob http://www.thefreedictionary.com/snob

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-08 10:28:26 UTC
@lihlii http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snob @T_7 @fred09g @Renee339 @liudimouse

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-08 10:30:54 UTC
@lihlii http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/snob 洋奴和右奴 @fred09g @Renee339 @liudimouse 喜欢骂人是 loser 卢瑟。其实对他们自己最贴切的称呼就是 snob 死懦伯 :) @T_7

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-08 10:33:57 UTC
@lihlii "snob 死懦伯"是给洋奴起个它们拜倒的洋大人的名称,它们一定会感到荣耀。;) 如果用它们仇恨的支那传统文化中的古语来称呼它们,就是"势利小人",它们就要气得狗急跳墙了。:) @fred09g @Renee339 @liudimouse @T_7

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-08 10:37:05 UTC
让洋大人教训你一下,底层出身的人非但未必"形成对优势阶层的愤恨",相反更容易行成趋炎附势崇拜强势群体,千方百计要将自己纳入高等阶层,鄙视 并羞于自 己的出身阶层的特点。 >@fred09g @liudimouse 底层出身的人,容易形成对优势阶层的愤恨。 @renee339

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-08 10:38:37 UTC
@lihlii 参考 snob 死懦伯 的词源,就是18世纪剑桥大学生鄙视出身下层的人的称呼,来源于"鞋匠"。荷兰语里"鞋匠"依然有这个意思。 http://oxforddictionaries.com/words/what-is-the-origin-of-the-word-snob @fred09g @liudimouse @Renee339

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-08 10:45:22 UTC
@lihlii http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snob 死懦伯是对社会地位不稳的一种心理反应,在既得利益阶层感到自己的特权不大安全时最为普遍。@fred09g @liudimouse @Renee339

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-08 10:45:50 UTC
@lihlii 在中共国习惯了特权地位的高等华人到了海外,遇到更高社会地位洋人的鄙视,就很容易变成这类趋炎附势的小人,死懦伯。:) @fred09g @liudimouse @Renee339

jaqi @Jaqi 2013-01-08 10:58:00 UTC
@lihlii snob也=城墙上拉屎=假高眼儿!Pardon my language :) !

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-12 22:23:44 UTC
自己处于下层,还特别喜欢鄙视下层人民的人叫做死懦伯(snob) http://post.ly/A7CGs

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-14 19:26:08 UTC
自己处于下层,还特别喜欢鄙视下层人民的人叫做死懦伯(snob): 高冬梅 @gaodongmei 2013-01-11 02:18:24 UTC 是因为恨。恨自己,恨别人,恨社会不公,恨… http://goo.gl/fb/qaCm5

lihlii @lihlii 2013-01-14 05:36:43 UTC
势利小人死懦伯 snob http://lihlii.blogspot.nl/2013/01/renee339-fred09g-liudimouse-snob.html "@fred09g: @shmloy @WuyouLan @doufuru 本来对河南就没好印象,放眼一望满世界的装逼河南傻子,真怀疑那个狗鸡巴地方除了猪,就没有过人类生存"

hirata shinji#反日教育根絶 @shinjihi 2013-02-02 02:05:56 UTC
拡散 従軍慰安婦?追軍売春婦、韓国の李容洙の申立て内容の変遷:1992年「国民服と戦闘帽の男から赤いワンピースと革靴をもらい嬉しかった。 即座についていった。」2007年「日本兵は私の口をふさいで家から引きずり出した」画像→ http://twitpic.com/921c92


鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 02:24:46 UTC
@shinjihi 画像の申し立てに対して否定的な立場の記事なのはわかるのですが、 反日的な意見を述べておられる中国人の@lihliiという方がフォローしておられるので、こういう記事をツイートするなら変なリスクを避ける為にも先の 方をブロックしておいたほうが無難かも。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 02:30:16 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 我不是啥反日意见,而是日本帝国主义分子想再次绑架日本的问题。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:06:48 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 日本帝国主义军国主义分子能代表日本么,那就是日本再蹈覆辙的时候。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:08:06 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 在韩国问题上,日本军国分子捏造谎言最肆无忌惮。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:10:58 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 貴方は日本を知らないだけ。今の日本の若者は「日本帝国」という言葉さえ知らないものが多くいる。「戦争は嫌」「中国と仲良くして」「どうして中国と仲良 くできないの?」こういう日本人が多くいる事を、貴方は多くの中国人に伝えるべき。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:12:48 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 什么乱七八糟的。概念逻辑混乱的人是帝国主义分子的天然俘虏。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:15:27 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 何故貴方はそんなに喧嘩腰な姿勢なのか?日本人は敵対する意思のない相手には非常に友好的。日本は安全で平和な国。だから日本で働いている中国人は大人数 です。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:18:03 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 就是日本年轻人不知日本帝国历史,才会容易被帝国主义军国主义欺诈。它们并非一定要高喊帝国军国,而在被美军慑服后,作小媳妇被强奸状喊:日本可以说呀灭 爹!民主党卖国!反日教育终结!共产党日教组可耻!日本没有战犯!参拜靖国神社是内政!

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:18:56 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 日本人はまじめでいい人ばかり。だから多数の富裕層や華僑の中国人は今でも日本に来る。日本の人友好的で、日本の食品は安全で美味しい。日本のサービスは 最高品質だと知っているから。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:20:29 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 今の日本人は「日本帝国」なんて不使用。今でも「日本帝国」と使っているのは白黒の古い映画と中国人位。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:24:01 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 尖阁列岛是日本生命线!所谓生命线说辞,是日本帝国主义分子忽悠国民的老法子。当年侵占军事殖民朝鲜台湾满洲,就说朝鲜台湾满洲是日本生命线;二战进攻东 南亚就说那是日本生命线,反复不占领的话日本就亡国日本人要灭绝了似的。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:24:05 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 结果呢?现在都丢了这些「生命线」,日本人因此亡国灭种了吗?

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:28:55 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 不用日本帝国这个名词,和没有帝国主义心态是两回事。中共国大部分国民也被共匪洗脑而崇尚帝国主义,但在中共国年轻人里也几乎没几个人会说"中华帝国"这 个词。这不等于他们没有帝国主义思想。日本人撒谎手法就是如此偷换概念装纯洁。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:28:58 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 他们喊的口号和日本帝国主义分子一样,假冒"爱国主义懮国主义"。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:29:08 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 私の言葉に何も反論できないから別の意見で誤魔化していますね。 そのあなたの意見は日本では在日の外国人のグループが言っている事と同じです。日本は安 全な国でこういう文化は有りません。⇒ http://youtu.be/JL88ranaiV0

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:32:18 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 中共国日奴、喜欢日本人和日本文化的人比日本喜欢中国的人数量更多,这不能证明中共国没有反日教育或帝国主义流行。日本的帝国主义军国主义盛行问题也是同 样道理。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:33:56 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 假冒友好进行欺诈,实则对历史罪恶加以粉饰狡辩,崇拜战犯,否认屠杀和强制性奴,准备再次犯罪。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:35:48 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 这些都是事实。日本人不是都一样。日本帝国主义和军国主义盛行也是越来越浮上台面的潜流。试图修改宪法加强军备就是明显的例子。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:37:04 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 日本では中国人の窃盗団が多数日本の家屋に窃盗に入っています。私も中国人の窃盗犯を捕まえた事が有ります。 尖閣問題は全く同じ構造。大東亜戦争の戦後 処理の時点で決まっている日本領土に中国窃盗団が侵入を試みているだけ。だから米軍もF22を配備した。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:40:09 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 尖阁列岛就是日本帝国盗窃抢劫惯犯从满清帝国盗窃的呀!偷盗也是日本帝国分子最在行和无耻。;)钓鱼岛鱼钓岛的名字都是中国先命名的就是例证。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:40:54 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 窃盗団が領土を奪いに来るのに鍵を強固にするのは当たり前でしょう。沖縄に対中国の為に戦闘機を配備して、近郊の海洋には海軍を配備している米軍もそれを 裏付けている。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:45:01 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 盗窃犯可耻,但日本盗窃犯一样有。外来移民出境差自然盗窃犯罪率高。日本人富人子弟却跑到欧洲杀人吃人肉,这就不能用境遇所迫来解释了呀!而且这个日本变 态杀人犯被富商父亲捏造假证开脱罪责回到日本反而上电视被追捧猎奇,道德堕落如此!

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:47:08 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 貴方の理屈が正しいと主張するなら、中国はモンゴルに日本の国土の何倍もの大きさの国土を返却しなさい。話はそれからです。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:51:25 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 日本人在外国杀人吃肉和中国人在外国盗窃哪个更无耻变态可怕呀? http://goo.gl/mruWq

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:53:04 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 何を言いたいのか全然分からない。日本は安全な国。中国の企業もデモで襲撃される事も無い。普通に経営・営業を続けている。中国では良心的な中国人が日本 人を守ってくれている。それが無ければまた襲撃される恐れが有る。貴方が良心的な人で有る事を望むばかり

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 03:56:31 UTC
http://www.google.co.jp/imgres?um=1&hl=ja&tbo=d&authuser=0&biw=1241&bih=615&tbm=isch&tbnid=4ED8TrwvHu6_zM:&imgrefurl=http://www.furec.jp/blog/concierge/%3Fp%3D5083&docid=RJ8tS-k5Pdi8NM&imgurl=http://www.furec.jp/blog/concierge/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/c9ecf1331ea635b81ba3ae1bfafc51ec.jpg&w=610&h=540&ei=AY4MUeiVJoejkwWd24AQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:5,s:0,i:94&iact=rc&dur=1774&sig=108712366448057141994&page=1&tbnh=190&tbnw=216&start=0&ndsp=10&tx=140&ty=69 ←真実の日本/妄想の日本→@lihlii2 @shinjihi 日本人在外国杀人吃肉和中国人在外国盗窃哪个更无耻变态可怕呀? http://goo.gl/mruWq

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:57:54 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 你要中国还内蒙给蒙古,可那本身也是历史上蒙古汗国南侵抢来的地盘呀,说还给蒙古不合理。抢来的是非法所得。我不反对内蒙和蒙古国合并,只要当地居民公决 认可。我不会和日本帝国军国主义分子一样鼓吹内蒙是中国生命线。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:58:57 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 日本近代军事入侵占领琉球。请让琉球人民独立自治吧。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 03:59:58 UTC
我引用的是事实。"@suzunone: http://www.google.co.jp/imgres?um=1&hl=ja&tbo=d&authuser=0&biw=1241&bih=615&tbm=isch&tbnid=4ED8TrwvHu6_zM:&imgrefurl=http://www.furec.jp/blog/concierge/%3Fp%3D5083&docid=RJ8tS-k5Pdi8NM&imgurl=http://www.furec.jp/blog/concierge/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/c9ecf1331ea635b81ba3ae1bfafc51ec.jpg&w=610&h=540&ei=AY4MUeiVJoejkwWd24AQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:5,s:0,i:94&iact=rc&dur=1774&sig=108712366448057141994&page=1&tbnh=190&tbnw=216&start=0&ndsp=10&tx=140&ty=69 ←真実の日本/妄想の日本→@lihlii2 @shinjihi 日本人在外国杀人吃肉和中国人在外国盗窃哪个更无耻变态可怕呀? http://goo.gl/mruWq"

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 04:02:23 UTC 对话
@lihlii2 @shinjihi ということは・・・今まで嘘を言ってきたって事ですか?

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 04:04:17 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 维基百科日文版是我"嘘"出来的吗?

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 04:07:26 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 歴史を捏造してはいけませんよ。今も中国はモンゴルを侵略しようと多くの殺人をしています。その事実を中国13~18億人の中国人に告知して意見を募るべ き。秘密裡に事を進めている共産党に賛成している人ばかりではないだろう。中国の良心に期待する。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 04:13:44 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 2012年に「沖縄に国内旅行」に行きましたが、地元に長く住む沖縄の人はみんな「日本人」という認識を持っていました。わざわざ安全・安心な文化を手放 す気はないようです。日本人だから当たり前です。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-02 04:14:42 UTC
@lihlii2 @shinjihi 安室奈美恵は沖縄出身の日本人歌手。中国でも有名な「日本人」ですよね。日本の沖縄出身の歌手です。http://news.searchina.ne.jp/disp.cgi?d=0127&f=entertainment_0127_007.shtml&y=2010

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-02 06:33:18 UTC
@suzunone @shinjihi 还有李香兰呢。

hirata shinji#反日教育根絶 @shinjihi 2013-02-02 07:34:09 UTC
@suzunone その通りに致しました。 ありがとうございました。(^◇^;)

kunisaki1986 @kunisaki1986 2013-02-02 11:36:48 UTC
日本人なら当たり前! "@suzunone: @lihlii2 @shinjihi 2012年に「沖縄に国内旅行」に行きましたが、地元に長く住む沖縄の人はみんな「日本人」という認識を持っていました。わざわざ安全・安心な文化を手放 す気はないようです。日本人だから当たり前です。"

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:15:27 UTC
@suzunone 在日本出生的中国人一样很多,能说明日本是中国领土么?:) 荒谬。你也可以去学共匪采访一下,在内蒙、新疆、西藏有大量当地人自认为是中国人,和你这种所谓冲绳人自认为是日本人的说辞有什么两样呢? @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:18:03 UTC
为了便于获得核原料搞核武器研究,以"国力维持"为理由,不惜坚持在地震带上造核电站,让老百姓冒着被核泄漏伤害的危险,这就是日本的所谓"爱国 者"。 >@suzunone 鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:22:46 UTC
@suzunone 你若到新疆、内蒙、西藏、青海、甘肃、四川、云南、贵州去采访当地人,一样可以找到自称"都是中国人"的藏族,维族,蒙古族等。;) 这等于是狗屁。 @shinjihi @taicho_kjm @akusyumi @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:22:53 UTC
@lihlii 你日本帝国在二战时如果真把冲绳人民当作日本人,会作出强迫他们自杀以解决军粮不足的兽行? @suzunone @shinjihi @taicho_kjm @akusyumi

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 18:34:20 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi @taicho_kjm 泥棒の意見は聞きません。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:36:37 UTC
@suzunone 既然是"泥棒",你和"泥棒"说这些话岂不是很"泥棒"呀?:) @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 18:37:49 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi 日本の核技術を盗みに来ないでください。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:38:39 UTC
@lihlii "泥棒"日本帝国偷偷窃取钓鱼岛列屿,但也不得不用"鱼钓岛"这个名字,窃取国土是最大的窃贼, @suzunone @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:39:54 UTC
@lihlii 你作为日本"泥棒"帝国的臣民却不知耻,还拿一些中共国移民在日本盗窃犯罪的个人刑事责任混淆整个日本帝国的窃贼国家行径加以狡辩。:) 谁都没说中国人在日本盗窃是合法的正确的, @suzunone @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:40:24 UTC
@lihlii 而日本"泥棒"国的臣民却为日本帝国的盗窃国土行为狡辩。;) 何其无耻之尤呀!汉语"泥棒"读音恰恰和日语"日本"非常接近,岂非是极大的讽刺! @suzunone @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:42:22 UTC
@suzunone 你们日本的所谓核技术不是从美国盗窃来的么?美国也是从德国偷来的。;) 否则你的核技术是自己发明的不成?:) 我才不要你的什么核技术呢,你送给我也不要呀。我可没鼓吹什么"原発稼働!国力維持!"谁要你的核技术你和谁放屁去。;) @shinjihi

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 18:42:39 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi @taicho_kjm @akusyumi 中国が蛮行を止めれば全て解決。日本は中国の富裕層や華僑に好まれる平和な国。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:44:56 UTC
@lihlii "泥棒"日本人在中国行窃,真是泥棒之国呀,大到国土,小到富裕的日本人都还要行窃,真是窃贼本性不改呀。 61岁的日本人在中国行窃,法院轻判 http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-128715-1-1.html @suzunone @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 18:47:24 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi @taicho_kjm 私の知り合いには貴方と違っていい中国人も華僑もたくさん居る。貴方以外の中国人は良い人も多い。これ以上嫌いな中国人を増やさないでほしい。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:47:50 UTC 对话
@lihlii 中共国人因为共匪黑帮害国导致贫穷,不得不偷渡日本去打工,处境糟糕而铤而走险者自然难免,这是穷困出盗贼。而日本人普遍富有却到中国旅行还盗窃,那就不 是穷困逼迫,是不是日本"泥棒"帝国国家鼓励盗窃的本性? @suzunone @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:50:14 UTC
@suzunone 反复说和什么"富裕层和华侨"关系好,泥棒帝国的奴才臣民真是死懦伯 snob 势利小人。;) @shinjihi @taicho_kjm @akusyumi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:52:32 UTC
@suzunone 那是当然,窃贼喜欢"泥棒",这是臭味相投。你喜欢的所谓"华侨","富有层",本来就是中共国高等华人窃贼群体嘛。:) @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 18:52:58 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi 日本はアメリカに大金を払って原発を技術ごと買いましたよ。中国には日本は見返りなしに大金をODAとして今も与え続けています。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:54:49 UTC
@suzunone ODA 只是为了捞钱的贷款而已,而且大部分指定购买日本厂商的设备,其实就是倾销商品,收买中共国腐败官僚的手法,中共国人民根本无法得到任何帮助,日本泥棒帝 国为了盗窃中共国人民血汗而搞的收买共匪的手法,还鼓吹成功劳,实则和共匪合谋盗窃把柄。 @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 18:57:55 UTC
@suzunone 是中共国偷窃日本的核电技术,还是日本商人巴结着共匪抢着要把核电技术卖给共匪好赚取巨额不义之财呀?你搜搜新闻,中共国好多核电站的技术都是从日本进口 的。偷窃日本核技术?!日本商人难道没拿钱吗?! @shinjihi

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 18:59:30 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi @taicho_kjm 私の友達の華僑は私にご飯をご馳走してくれます。私の友達は泥棒ではありせん。貴方の友達は泥棒なのかも知れませんが私の友達は違います。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 19:00:10 UTC
@suzunone 日本泥棒帝国为了盗取美国的核技术用于偷偷发展核武器残害人民,不惜重金购买美国公司。中共国核电设施很多都是从美国"西屋"公司进口,而日本商人操控了 西屋公司过半的股份,实际上等于是日本公司了。;) 这叫做中国盗窃日本,还是日本盗窃美国呀? @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 19:02:18 UTC
@suzunone 你的朋友不是泥棒,否则你们互相偷,那可就热闹了呀。;) @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 19:04:24 UTC 对话
@lihlii "泥棒"日本人在中国行窃,真是泥棒之国呀,大到国土,小到行李箱,富裕的日本人都还要行窃,真是窃贼本性不改呀。 61岁的日本人在中国行窃,法院轻判 http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-128715-1-1.html @suzunone @shinjihi @taicho_kjm

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 19:05:23 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi @taicho_kjm @akusyumi 私は中国人のカウンセリングは受け付けていません。不眠症なら精神科などで睡眠剤を処方してもらって下さい。漢方でもいいです。寂しいのなら友達を作って ください。日本まで来たらご飯ぐらいは奢って上げます。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 19:08:42 UTC
@suzunone 你是很有趣,快休息吧,否则你真要被日本"泥棒"军国分子整成脑残了。:) 有机会和你吃饭会笑得喷饭而死。 @shinjihi @taicho_kjm @akusyumi

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 19:10:51 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi 始めの何基かの原子炉はアメリカから購入それからアメリカと日本の共同開発。途中からは日本の独自の開発な切り替わって中国にも輸出しています。中国は技 術がないから日本から原子炉を買ってください。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 19:16:41 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi @taicho_kjm @akusyumi 世界の平和を望んでいる日本人と、喧嘩をしたい中国人の会話はこれて終わりです。私は寝る。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 19:16:58 UTC
@suzunone 日本泥棒帝国盗窃钓鱼岛之后,偷偷摸摸地划入自己的版图,然后进行销赃,一会儿租给私人,一会儿卖给私人,一会儿又卖给国家实行国有化,怎么看都是窃贼销 赃的行为。:) @shinjihi

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 19:18:10 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi @taicho_kjm @akusyumi 最後に、早く睡眠薬と精神安定剤の処方を受けてください。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-07 19:20:21 UTC
@lihlii @shinjihi 中国の国技が泥棒でなくなる日を心待ちにしています。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 19:29:53 UTC
@suzunone 在泥棒这方面,中国那要什么时候才能赶上日本呀。 @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-07 21:32:29 UTC
@suzunone 很多日本人喜欢自吹日本ODA贷款如何给中国好处,事实是日本奸商想勾结共匪剥削中共国人民血汗而已,除了贸易和投资获得丰厚利润,中共还劫持人民血汗钱 反过来借给日本政府,至2011年年底,中国持有的日本国债约18万亿日元(合人民币14590亿元) @shinjihi

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:07:54 UTC
日本帝国的生命线真多。RT @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI: "中国の憎悪浴びる民進党・蘇貞昌主席が来日―石破茂幹事長らと安保政策でコンセンサス "をブログ「台湾は日本の生命線」で。http://bit.ly/WV7Cj8

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:08:13 UTC 对话
@lihlii2 >@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 日台米「民主同盟」による中国への対抗を訴え、多くの議員と意気投合した台湾の野党党首。なぜ日本のメディアは報じない。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:24:26 UTC
核心利益也是日本帝国先说的。RT @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI: 日本の「生命線」が多いって?多いのはお前の国の「核心利益」 だよ。台湾、チベット、東トルキスタン、南支那海、尖閣が核心利益?侵略者め、すべて他国の領域じゃないか。RT @lihlii2: 日本帝国的生命线真多。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:25:40 UTC 对话
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 日本帝国偷窃钓鱼岛,还恬不知耻呀。你怎么不敢去说韩国是日本帝国领土呀?

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:30:04 UTC 对话
@lihlii2 《日本走向何方》试读:何谓日本的核心利益? http://book.douban.com/reading/10536455/ 核心利益这个词还是共匪跟着日本学来的,日本跟着美国学来的呢。 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:33:29 UTC 对话
核心利益和侵略国有什么关系?美国经常说。日本帝国不是侵略国?琉球是怎么吞并的?>@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 日本が中国より先に「核心利益」と言った?いつ?日本は侵略国ではないし、「核心利益」なんて言葉はない。本当にウソツキだな。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:38:57 UTC
日本帝国民族主义更疯狂,盗窃钓鱼岛之外还想抢韩国的独岛,何其疯狂呀RT @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI: 前にも聞いたと思うが、尖閣が中国領である法的根拠を教えてよ。根拠がないなら、中国人こそ恥知らずだと認め、謝罪して。 ストレス発散のための民族主義なら、自分の国に帰ってどうぞ。

東瀛刀 @dongyingdao 2013-02-08 11:39:15 UTC 对话
永山さん、この@lihlii2 人は排外的ナショナリズムの旗を掲げていた昔の義和団のような反日支那人です。あまり相手にしなくていいです。RT @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 日本の「生命線」が多いって?多いのはお前の国の「核心利益」 だよ。

永山英樹 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 2013-02-08 11:39:51 UTC
回答になっていない。 RT @lihlii2: 核心利益和侵略国有什么关系?美国经常说。日本帝国不是侵略国?琉球是怎么吞并的?>@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 日本が中国より先に「核心利益」と言った?いつ?日本は侵略国ではないし、「核心利益」なんて言葉はない。本当にウソツキだな。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:40:18 UTC 对话
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 那你们日本人先从中共国滚出去呀?你知道有多少日本人住在中共国吗?

sigesige00 @sigesige00 2013-02-08 11:40:46 UTC
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @lihlii2 釣魚台が中国領である根拠=ポツダム宣言。ポツダム宣言により、日本の領土は連合国が決定することとなっている。日本政府の「1905年に領土に編入し た」という主張を仮に認めても、それはポツダム宣言により失効している。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:44:15 UTC
@sigesige00 钓鱼岛根本就是日本帝国武装占领殖民琉球后,甲午战争为了入侵殖民朝鲜, 满清帝国战败丢失台湾日本帝国顺便偷窃钓鱼岛。因为是个无人小岛且并未列入条约,满清帝国自身难保,根本没顾及而让日本帝国形成盗窃成功的事实。偷来的终 归是偷 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:46:29 UTC
@sigesige00 其后日本帝国将钓鱼岛划入琉球地方管辖。中华民国推翻满清帝国后也内乱频仍顾不上涉及钓鱼岛问题。认可琉球被日本帝国吞并的事实同时也错误以为被窃的钓鱼 岛也算琉球。 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:49:27 UTC
@sigesige00 而且当时日强华弱连台湾都丢了,怎么可能有心思去管一个小小的钓鱼岛的问题呢。日本帝国是乘人之危的盗窃。,盗窃自然有很多情况是属主本人都不知情的,否 则不叫偷窃而是抢劫了。日本帝国占领朝鲜、满洲、华北、蒙古、台湾、琉球就是抢劫 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:52:44 UTC 对话
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 物归原主的道理不懂吗? @sigesige00

永山英樹 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 2013-02-08 11:54:46 UTC
@lihlii2 @sigesige00 「满清帝国战败丢失台湾日本帝国顺便偷窃钓鱼岛」←違います。日本は日清戦争で勝ったの乗じて尖閣諸島を盗み取ったのではない。戦勝前に領有している。そ れに日清戦争前に清国が尖閣を実効支配していた証拠はない。当時の文献に島名が記されているだけで。

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:56:04 UTC 对话
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 中共倒是曾经为了联苏反美反民主,卖国巴结日本,公开宣称钓鱼岛属于琉球,琉球属于日本,要美国军队滚出琉球。;) 日本帝国主义分子应该很喜欢中共呀。两方面演双簧欺诈支那人民。 @sigesige00

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:57:48 UTC
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 你去查查日本政府的文件即知。甲午战争开战后,战事已决胜负,日本帝国才敢于偷窃钓鱼岛的。 @sigesige00

立里 @lihlii2 2013-02-08 11:58:43 UTC
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 钓鱼岛的名称都是来自支那命名,还有啥可以狡辩的呢?日本帝国习惯性偷窃。 @sigesige00

東瀛刀 @dongyingdao 2013-02-08 12:06:25 UTC 对话
历史文盲兼法盲傻逼王华欣你给老子听好!琉球和支那没啥屁关系!琉球王国早在1609年变已成为萨摩藩的属地,那时近代国际法都还未诞生!法学上 关于侵略 名词的定义还不存在,大日本帝国按照日清辛丑条约和日俄等条约驻军支那,也是合理合法的! @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @lihlii2

永山英樹 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 2013-02-08 12:07:21 UTC
尖閣領有が日清戦争中だと認めるね?しかし日本はそこを盗んだのではない。「文件」とは「日本外交文書」だね?中国人は「そこに日本政府が尖閣を 清国領と 認識していたことが書かれている」と主張するが、嘘だよ。 RT @lihlii2: @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 你去查查日本政府的文件

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 15:40:03 UTC
@akid_ 这和最疯狂的反华种族主义分子,洋奴死懦伯们如 @renee339 @dongyingdao @fuzeyuji @trotrotro @niulehou 等是支那出产,是一个道理。 @superbasscn

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:09:41 UTC 对话
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 你自己去查查日本帝国政府偷偷摸摸将钓鱼岛划入版图的历史文件。;) 中国人主张钓鱼岛是日本帝国冲绳县下辖,只是因为当时琉球和台湾都被日本占领,根本无从考虑钓鱼岛了。 @Fx_Kuririn

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:10:16 UTC
国际法没诞生?你懂不懂法?>@dongyingdao 琉球和支那没啥屁关系!琉球王国早在1609年变已成为萨摩藩的属地,那时近代国际法都还未诞生!法学上关于侵略名词的定义还不存在,大日本帝国按照日清 辛丑条约和日俄等条约驻军支那,也是合理合法的! @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:11:45 UTC 对话
@lihlii 当时没有侵略的概念?那好的很,那日本活该被蒙古入侵。:) 琉球王国早在1609年变已成为萨摩藩的属地? 你看看日文维基:1429年から1879年の450年間、沖縄本島を中心に存在した王国 @dongyingdao @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:12:35 UTC 对话
@lihlii 萨摩藩入侵琉球,难道就是合法拥有琉球主权的理由吗?那朝鲜百济王国也曾占领日本大片领土,可以说明日本属于朝鲜咯。;) @dongyingdao @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:14:05 UTC
如果辛丑条约是合法的,那日本战犯就是罪犯,因何还入祀崇拜罪犯?可见日本是一个崇拜罪犯的黑帮国家。:) >@dongyingdao 大日本帝国按照日清辛丑条约和日俄等条约驻军支那,也是合理合法的! @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:19:22 UTC 对话
@lihlii2 日本的民族主义疯狂,请参考日裔美籍学者弗朗西斯·福山的分析:日本的民族主义问题 http://hongtaoh.blogspot.com/2007/03/blog-post_7181.html @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @suzunone @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:25:09 UTC 对话
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 你说琉球人和大陆没有DNA关系,你日本占领的阿伊努族、鄂罗克族、尼夫赫族的领土,他们和你日本和族有啥DNA关系吗?;) 用种族主义想证明琉球人不等于中国人,纯属扯淡。因为在中国根本不存在什么"琉球人=中国人"的说法,而是指出琉球本来是独立国家。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:26:45 UTC 对话
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 日本帝国武装侵占琉球,当时琉球王国向满清帝国求救,但满清帝国没有出兵。日本帝国分子心里有鬼,所以才捏造鼓吹说中国人鼓吹"冲绳人=中国人",而且故 意将"琉球"这个名字试图抹去,总是说日本人起的名字"冲绳"。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:28:15 UTC
@NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 琉球王国不是中国人,但有一些支那移民。而且琉球王国曾经以汉语为官方语言,官方文字都是使用汉文,虽然不是中国,但是中原帝国的保护国,附属国性质,是 主动归附,而中原帝国从未象强盗小偷成性的日本帝国一样对琉球用武力欺凌。:) 这是日本帝国永久的耻辱。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 18:57:07 UTC
@lihlii http://www.voachinese.com/content/japan-20130207/1598898.html 日本从俄罗斯手里抢来的北方四岛又被苏联抢走,活该~ 日本帝国分子说按照实际控制,那就看着俄罗斯实际控制100年好了。哈哈哈 @dongyingdao @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2012-01-22 17:50:14 UTC
平和すぎる国の弊害だな。平和憲法無くしたほうがいいかも。@3taroid こういうやつらの脳内の思考回路どうなってんだろか? 「子どもを叱ってほしい」「ラーメン頼んでおいて」…110番の3割、緊急性なし http://alfalfalfa.com/archives/5112562.html

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-01-10 07:15:06 UTC
この記事を読めば中国では如何に論理的正当性よりも裏付けのない感情論を優先する層が多いかよく分かる。但し平和堂の店員のように日本人の心を理 解する層がいる事も忘れてはならない。@shinjihi 尖閣空域で自衛隊機「警告射撃も」中国人「反撃だ」http://tmblr.co/ZsZ76ybPMFwE

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-08 19:58:50 UTC
@lihlii @lihlii2 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi そんなものを参考にしなくても、在日の中国人に聞けば現実が解ります。日本は平和で安心の国であると伝えてくれますよ。

鈴(原発稼働!国力維持!) @suzunone 2013-02-08 20:00:40 UTC
@lihlii @lihlii2 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi 2007年3月………………………ぷっ(笑)

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 20:42:02 UTC
心虚的日本泥棒帝国谎言家回复别人推文却屏蔽别人。;) >@suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi 日本は平和で安心の国であると伝えてくれますよ。

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 20:42:49 UTC
@lihlii 只要和泥棒帝国的军国分子说辞不同的,就是不可参考。呵呵 >@suzunone そんなものを参考にしなくても、在日の中国人に聞けば現実が解ります。 @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:00:34 UTC
@lihlii http://tmblr.co/ZsZ76ySFWeEz 这两个日本帝国主义者 @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI 热衷于日文军国主义网站,还对外欺诈说日本是和平国家。"大舰巨炮主义"是和平? @shinjihi @sigesige00 @dongyingdao

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:19:22 UTC
公然撒谎,"日本帝国"这个词在日文网站到处可以看到。比如这里: http://blog.livedoor.jp/military38/archives/5869112.html >@suzunone 貴方は日本を知らないだけ。今の日本の若者は「日本帝国」という言葉さえ知らないものが多くいる pic.twitter.com/KTkysD1a


lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:23:35 UTC
@lihlii 这张图还公然宣扬"大日本帝国"武装进攻中国和韩国,画面是坦克集群进攻场面,文字标注:大日本帝国:早上好!/中国、韩国:啊?- 这叫做"和平的国家"?:) 泥棒谎言帝国就是这样定义"和平"的。 @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:28:11 UTC 对话
@lihlii 这就是所谓"平和安心"的日本人在鼓吹的东西, >@suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi 日本は平和で安心の国である pic.twitter.com/gxIlT42G


lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:29:08 UTC
@lihlii pic.twitter.com/gxIlT42G 而且野心大到将没有占领的泰国也画成日本帝国领土。 @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi


lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:29:28 UTC
@lihlii http://blog.livedoor.jp/military38/archives/5869112.html 这个网站显示的是日本泥棒帝国对外说一套谎言,在国内大肆鼓吹帝国主义,军国主义的现实。 @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:37:17 UTC
@lihlii pic.twitter.com/gxIlT42G 日奴 @dongyingdao @fuzeyuji @trotrotro 等还鼓吹日本帝国是帮助满洲独立建国,这个谎言被主子的地图戳穿,满洲直接标注"日本"。 @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI


lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:42:02 UTC
日本泥棒帝国的谎言宣传家,对内鼓吹"和平"的"弊害",要废除"和平宪法";而对中国人则欺诈说日本是"和平"国 家。>@suzunone 日本は安全で平和な国。 >@suzunone 平和すぎる国の弊害だな。平和憲法無くしたほうがいいかも。 @3taroid

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:45:56 UTC
这个网站上发言鼓吹"大日本帝国"军事进攻中国、韩国的,不是日本人?:) http://blog.livedoor.jp/military38/archives/5869112.html pic.twitter.com/KTkysD1a >@suzunone 今の日本人は「日本帝国」なんて不使用。今でも「日本帝国」と使っているのは白黒の古い映画と中国人位。


lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:50:23 UTC
@lihlii pic.twitter.com/gxIlT42G 日本帝国野心勃勃抢夺俄国苏联侵占的远东满洲领土库页岛,千岛群岛,偷鸡不成蚀把米最终丢失四小岛 @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi


lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:51:29 UTC
@lihlii 然后反而装作可怜受害人的样子天天叫嚷要俄罗斯归还"北方四岛",你说这不是活该么? @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi

lihlii @lihlii 2013-02-08 21:52:19 UTC
@lihlii 苏联对日本够客气的了。如果学日本帝国对待满清帝国的手法,就该把你日本北海道瓜分了然后说是苏联实际控制领土。;) @suzunone @NAGAYAMAHIDEKI @sigesige00 @dongyingdao @shinjihi


2013年2月7日星期四

欧逸文 Evan Osnos @eosnos :《纽约客》的采写规范

※范强※法特姗瑟希蒲※ @fightcensorship 2013-02-01 01:20:19 UTC
《纽约客》上有一篇欧逸文撰写的文章:"中国特色的黑客"。文章列举了黑客的一些具有中国特色:特别针对纽时驻上海记者张大卫。北京时间8点上 班,下午5点下班,使用同一学校的电脑。持续攻击一个"短名单"中的外国驻京记者(彭博社也确认遭到攻击)。http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/evanosnos/2013/01/hacking-with-chinese-characteristics.html?mbid=social_retweet

akid @akid_ 2013-02-03 03:05:58 UTC
[纽约客] 欧逸文 :为慢新闻叫好 http://t.cn/zYbDtbi 保罗口中的"慢新闻",即以每小时3英里的步行速度报道新闻的过程。

nAODI (脑袋) @nAODI 2013-02-06 15:15:47 UTC
最近貌似「人物」杂志的一篇报道波澜不小,正巧在 instapaper 里看到这篇文字:Evan Osnos: 「纽约客」的采写规范。http://bit.ly/YTvHNv

偏要说(Shut Me Up) @long132 2013-02-06 15:44:04 UTC
实际上这个不重要。试想一下如果人物杂志这些内容是通过某个微博用户发出来的? RT: @nAODI: 最近貌似「人物」杂志的一篇报道波澜不小,正巧在 instapaper 里看到这篇文字:Evan Osnos: 「纽约客」的采写规范。http://bit.ly/YTvHNv

偏要说(Shut Me Up) @long132 2013-02-06 15:45:22 UTC
当然对于媒体可能就比较重要。正在看李海鹏的声明...RT: @long132: 实际上这个不重要。试想一下如果人物杂志这些内容是通过某个微博用户发出来的? RT: @nAODI: 最近貌似「人物」杂志的一篇报道波澜不小,...「纽约客」的采写规范。...

http://www.douban.com/group/topic/18305171/
欧逸文(Evan Osnos):《纽约客》的采写规范。
来自: 沉默的风景(本是后山人,偶做前堂客。) 2011-03-16 10:35:38

主讲:欧逸文(Evan Osnos)
时间:2011年3月10日
地点:尤伦斯当代艺术中心报告厅
翻译:杜可柯
速记:李京威
摄影:郜华欣

张立宪:大家下午好。抱歉,今天来的人超出我们的想象。没有想到周四的下午,一个专业的讲座,会让很多人逃课或翘班赶过来,我看到很多在传媒江湖 上久未露面的人出现在这里,据说还有的媒体整个编辑部都过来了,有些读传媒专业的学生也过来了。我们也要感谢崔峤老师带着肚子里的宝宝来为大家维 持秩序,感谢尤伦斯当代艺术中心给我们提供场地,感谢海报的设计人员,把海报设计得既像天气预报,又像一个园艺方面的讲座,涉及灌溉和养花等方面 的内容。
  
今天的主角是我们的帅哥小欧,以及小欧推荐的翻译杜杜小姐,讲座主题是《纽约客》杂志在采访和写作方面的规范和规程。在座很多都是同行,我相信大 家都有切肤之痛,我也有类似的经历。在《读库》的编辑过程中,特别是这两年,我经常会接到某一个作者的电话,问我给你的稿子能不能退给我,想再返 一下工,回一下炉,因为他在这个过程中逐渐感到了自己采写方面的不足。我们身处的这个时代,这个国家,可以叫做"选题富矿",有无数世界级的选题 等待我们这些从业人员去挖掘、去记录、去呈现。但是在执行的过程中,我们会发现仅仅有良好的愿望和很高的工作热情是不够的,还需要规范的职业训练 和成熟的业务模块,否则我们很容易浪费掉一个很好的选题,或者留下太多的遗憾。所以,我们变得越来越谨慎,越来越害怕,担心自己做得不好,事先的 准备工作和专业技能的储备不够。
  
今天我们把小欧请来,希望他的讲座能够让我们的这种担忧少一些,接下来就欢迎小欧来进行他的讲座。
  
欧逸文:谢谢老六。今天的讲座我用英文来讲,因为我不想让自己的中文丢面子。感谢《读库》,也感谢老六邀请我来做这个讲座。我觉得能够跟老六和 《读库》这样在中国文化界占有非常重要位置的出版人和出版物合作是一件非常荣幸的事。
  
首先给大家带来一张《纽约客》历史上最有名的封面——1976年某期杂志的封面。
 
这是从纽约市中心看过去的世界的图景,充分代表了二十世纪七十年代在纽约的纽约人对世界的认识和看法。在他们眼里,全世界分成两个地方,一个是纽 约,一个是纽约之外的所有地方。我今天能够到这里来,人在北京,又可以代表《纽约客》驻北京的记者在北京生活,这充分表现了《纽约客》的世界观已 经发生了变化,为此我感到非常高兴。

我想先用《纽约客》最重要的一个部门——当然不是我所在的编辑采写部,而是《纽约客》最著名的卡通部——为例做一个评论。这是《纽约客》一幅很著 名的漫画,图中有两只狗,一条狗对另一条狗说,在网上谁也不知道你是一条狗。我觉得用这句话来描述我们的时代也是非常合适的。
  
今天我演讲的主题是新闻采写和媒体行业的实践和伦理,即工作伦理和职业道德。我会先讲一下自己工作的方式,以及《纽约客》工作的方式,他们是如何 努力去维护和提高新闻行业的职业水准;然后我要通过几个我的职业生涯当中遇到的具体事情来说明这个问题。
  
我要讲的这个故事并不是发生在中国,而是在伊拉克。2005年来北京之前,我在伊拉克做记者。这个故事能够充分说明一个记者在工作当中遇到的非常 矛盾的困境,即两难的处境。故事的主角叫罗伯特,伊拉克战争中的一名美国军人。我在伊拉克战争开始之前就认识这个人,战争开始之后我们又见过面, 我当时在做随军记者。再见到他,已经是他完成兵役回国之后了。他从伊拉克刚回到加州,我就约他见面,之后的几天我都一直跟着他,想写他在伊拉克以 及回国之后的经历。我们见面的第一件事就是去酒吧喝了个酩酊大醉。
  
跟大部分从战争中回来的美国大兵一样,罗伯特回国之后做的事情都是喝次大酒、搞个纹身什么的。有一天晚上我们吃饭的时候,他说我有件事必须得告诉 你,但是你不能写到文章里。我答应了,你说吧。他说,我可能杀害了一个无辜的平民。其实我觉得他把这件事情告诉我,本身就是让我陷入两难的境地。 一方面我可以就这个故事做很好的讲述,而且我觉得这个讲述对公众来说既有必要,也有利于推动公共利益,同时大家也会很感兴趣的,是很值得一写的; 另一方面我在个人层面上已经答应不把这件事写到文章里。现在我不会公布我是怎么处理的,我们回头再说。
  
我再给大家介绍一下我自己的背景。我在中国已经工作和生活了五年半,第一次来中国是1996年,1998年又来过一次。开始来中国是为《芝加哥论 坛报》工作,三年前成为《纽约客》的驻京记者。大家有目共睹,过去的五六年是中国飞速增长和发生巨大变化的几年,预言中国在世界的崛起是从拿破仑 以来西方人一直很热衷做的事情。但如今,中国崛起已经不能算是预言了,而是摆在大家面前的事实。我现在做的大部分工作是描述在中国发生的事情,然 后去解释为什么,以及中国怎样在新的世界版图里扮演新的角色。
  
中国在世界上影响力的扩大,以及中国实力的增长,并不意味着美国人对中国人的印象会更好。相反,随着中国影响力的扩大,美国人更容易把中国当成一 个漫画式的角色或者有一个漫画式的印象。有人觉得中国将来要么统治全世界,要么变成另外一个日本——经过一段高速增长之后达到一个制高点,然后就 进入一个平台,不再有进一步的发展。这是美国国内对中国最主流的两种看法。我特别高兴能够为《纽约客》工作,因为《纽约客》也相信,应该为这两种 特别极端的看法之间注入一些更加微妙、更加有细节、更加有层次的理解。

《纽约客》是一本周刊,它的报道范围非常广泛,包括文化、政治、诗歌、小说等方面的内容,也发一些幽默的小笑话、漫画什么的,更多的是各种类型的 纪实报道,也就是我现在做的工作。

从《纽约客》各种各样的封面就可以看出它报道范围的广泛,有的封面单纯就是为了美感而做,我们的文章里也有不少是关于艺术和文艺方面的报道。

现在我们看到的是和政治有关的封面。在奥巴马竞选总统过程中和当选之后,有一些对他特别荒谬的人身攻击,有人说他和妻子是穆斯林极端分子,还有更 可笑的,一些政治人物在福克斯的右翼电视台上公然说,奥巴马跟人握手的方式是恐怖分子见面时的两个人击拳方式。我们把人们马上会想到的典型的恐怖 分子形象的元素,全部用在了奥巴马夫妇身上,把它作为封面发表出来。这惹怒了所有的人,民主党和共和党的人都很生气,他们认为这是在给右翼分子添 油加醋,给了他们武器以利攻击奥巴马。但主编和编辑却认为这是一件很好的事,很高兴能引发这么大一个麻烦。

还有一些封面纯粹是为了寄托人们的一些情绪。"九•一一"事件之后,就有了这么一个庄重肃穆的封面,一个黑色的双子塔的剪影,非常简单,就像鬼魂 一样,这是针对悲剧性的事情本身出的。

这幅封面代表了美国人对中国充分的想象。

被人模仿本身是最好的认可和赞美,右边这幅图是《经济学人》做的一期封面,和我们1976年的那一期差不多一模一样。
  
我在《纽约客》主要的工作是去写一些我觉得在中国特别有意思的人和事。我的工作周期一般是两到三个月一篇,有的时候是六个月一篇。在这个过程中, 一篇文章大概要采访五十到八十个人,如果文章题目比较小、范围比较窄,采访的人数要少一点。基本上每个故事写完,会有两百到三百页的采访文字。

左边那张是胡舒立,右边那张可能所有人都知道,是艾未未。我主要写两种人,一种是有一定社会地位和影响力的名人,在中国很有名,但是在西方还不太 被人详细了解。另外一类不是社会名人,但是有别的意义,我也会关注。我非常幸运跟一些很出色的摄影师合作,这些摄影师能够很精准地捕捉到我写的人 物的神态和气质。
  
我写过疯狂英语的李阳,写过贾樟柯,还有一些不太有名的人,比方说,广州黑人的专题,广州迦南地区有很多非洲移民,主要讲讲在中国移民的基本状 况,还有"中国愤青",可能大家在《读库》或网上已经看过。
  
我今天会讲一系列指导我工作的概念或原则,有一些是非常抽象的原则,也有一些是非常具体非常实际的原则。
  
第一条原则跟张茵有关。她是玖龙纸业的创始人,在一段时期内,她也是全世界白手起家的女企业家里最富有的人。我平常写文章不会选特别难以接近特别 难以采访到的人,但是张茵算是很特别的一个。我刚开始跟张茵的公关团队接触的时候,他们就不断地告诉我,不可能有这次采访。在座的同行,如果有公 关团队告诉你别指望这个采访了,大家千万不要灰心,应该把这个作为对自己最大的鼓励,要拿下这个采访。
  
张茵对采访不感兴趣,因为当时她公司的股票急速下跌,财富大厦在迅速倒塌,所以她基本不见媒体。张茵公司会做一年一度的年度财报,类似新闻发布会 那样的。我不懂任何金融和经济方面的专业知识,想借此机会去香港一趟,参加他们的年度财务报告会,假装一下经济学记者,穿一穿从来没有机会穿的高 级西装也挺好。
  
我就去了香港,参加张茵公司的年度财务报告会。在一个特别时髦的酒店里,我按时到上到四楼,发现一个房间里有玖龙纸业的标志,就进去了。然后我发 现可能走错了,因为那个房间很小,里面没多少人,只有张茵和她老公,还有几个助手跑来跑去地工作。我当时就呆住了,张茵也惊了,两个人都很尴尬。 张茵愣了一会儿,就走过来跟我握手,自我介绍说我是玖龙纸业的张茵,我说我是《纽约客》的记者欧逸文。
  
自我介绍之后,张茵完全可以把我踢出去的,但如果这样,不仅对我很尴尬,对她也很尴尬。一个老外穿那么昂贵的西装站那儿,你把他撵出去也不太像 话。张茵问我要不要杯咖啡,我就觉得张茵会和我聊,这个采访肯定能成了。之后我们就聊了一会儿,在聊天的过程中,我要求张茵邀请我参观她的工厂, 张茵也发出了这样的邀请。但在我要做深入的报道,准备去工厂看的时候,她的公关团队又出现了,不让我去。我说我现在不去多不好啊,你们老总都请我 了。最后还是成行了。
  
瞧,做记者这一行,首先必须要有一套好西装,另外一定要走出去。因为当记者总要决定自己要不要做这个采访,去不去见这个人。每次做决定的时候,要 告诉自己不要再在办公室做研究、给专家打电话,——站起身来,出去。
  
回过头来说,为什么我觉得好西装很重要呢?张茵后来接受我的采访,也是因为一开始不知道我是干嘛的,穿着一套高级西装,这是谁啊?她可能以为是一 个潜在的投资者,可能会帮助她挽救公司。可是后来发现其实不是,也没有用,来不及了。
  
下面讲的是写贾樟柯的专题,这是在北京世界公园。贾樟柯带我去看了一些对他而言很重要的地方,去山西,看他长大的地方,看他拍第一部电影的地方。 我去山西是在冬天,当时贾樟柯在为一家杂志拍大片。起得特别早,到那里开始拍,花好几个小时布景,之后拆了再到另外一个地方重新布置,再拍。整个 过程中,贾樟柯对拍摄的每一个细节和微小之处都非常挑剔。更重要的是,当时天气特别冷,是我到中国以来最冷的一天。
  
在这样一个寒冷的周末,我跟着贾樟柯,做了很多的笔记,录了很多磁带。有时候这种现场录下来的磁带或者片子,比一对一的采访更有料。这事结束之 后,贾樟柯又邀我一起去沈阳、成都、重庆走一趟。我心里特别虚,担心接下来都要这么冷可怎么办啊?所以当贾樟柯问我去不去,我虽然犹豫,但根据刚 才说的第一原则,当然是去了。

我们就一起去了,一路上我看他做的事,他在这些城市做电影的首映。看这些二三线城市的年轻人对贾樟柯的电影反应都很热烈。这很有意思,也很重要。 西方一般认为,贾樟柯的电影在中国只有大城市的文青和知识分子感兴趣,现在看到他有更广的受众,我觉得很有收获。这么多天,录了好多个小时的带 子,回北京之后,我把这些材料整理好,在写文章的时候都写进去了。写完之后交给在纽约的编辑看,编辑做的第一件事情,就是把关乎这一趟行程的所有 东西全删了。
  
就算编辑最后把你写的这一部分都删了,走这一趟也是非常有价值的。如果不去这一趟,我可能不知道贾樟柯现在在尝试着面对一个不同的受众群体,或者 尝试对不同的观众群体说话。所以,只要你的文章、这一段经历和采访或跟采访对象的接触里有百分之一、二的东西影响到你对这些事情的理解和看法,那 都很值得一去。这段时间有没有浪费?它的价值不是体现在能有多大程度出现在最后的文章里,而是更多地体现在文章所反映出来的本人的观点中。第三个 原则,是尽量多地去录。我有一个习惯,把所有的东西都录下来,这是因为人们通常在随意的评论中展现出真实的自我,这时记录下所有的东西非常必要。

这张图片是芝加哥市长理查德•戴利(Richard M. Daley),他是出了名的凶。在对这位市长的长时间采访过程中,他一直都是这么一个状态。但是偶尔在一个特别微妙的时刻,大家都不注意的时候,他突然说 起了自己的父亲,我差点都漏听了这一段。他说他小时候特别害怕自己的父亲。我听了这么一小句话,突然明白了到底是什么东西造就了市长现在工作、说 话的方式。如果你只是记笔记的话,这种很不起眼的时刻是永远不会留下痕迹的。
  
提醒大家不要忘记我一开始说的怎么处理大兵罗伯特的事情,我想让这个悬念留得久一点,一会儿再讲。接下来我会讲跟采访对象验证当时所讲的东西是不 是事实的问题。在此之前我先说最后一个原则,那就是你得和采访对象感同身受,通过他的眼睛去看他的世界,而不是总以一个局外人的角度去观察他。当 然,作为一个记者,在写文章的时候也需要做一些评判和判断,帮助读者在更大的语境下去了解采访对象,了解这个事件。更多的时候通过我的眼睛去看, 这一点会更加宝贵。我写过的那篇《中国愤青》的主人公叫唐杰,是上海复旦大学一位非常爱国的学生。我想知道在中国这些民族主义者到底是谁,网上这 些爱国评论背后到底是哪些人,这些人有什么样的性格、什么样的世界观。我找到唐杰,和他的朋友一起聊了很久,之后写了《中国愤青:新一代保守民族 主义者》(Angry Youth:The new generation's neocon nationalists),希望通过他们的眼睛去看他们对中国的看法,以及对周围这些事情的反应。
  
另外一个《纽约客》做得特别好的,也是特别独特的地方,就是信息核实制度(fact-checking system)。除了编辑部、新闻部之外,有一个非常独立的部门做事实核实。它就像一个独立于整个编辑团队之外的审计员一样,对每一篇文章和文章中的每个 字进行核实,有二十到三十个全职人员进行工作。我做了《纽约客》驻京记者之后,那边增设了两个事实核查员。他们都会讲普通话,有一个还会讲广东 话。因为之后的很多材料是中文的,有的是粤语的。他们会在核实之后的字上划一条线,表明事实核查员对这篇文章所有文字的准确度和可靠度负责。
  
所有的采访做完之后,基本上采访对象都会收到事实核查员的再次采访。在纽约的人会给采访对象打电话或者写E-mail,把所有细节的问题再问一 遍。如果我在大街上找人采访,还会要这个人的联系方式。如果遇到这种情况,被采访的人可能会非常惊讶,他一开始在街上碰到一个老外,被问了一些莫 名其妙的问题;三个月后,他又接到来自纽约的一个越洋电话,用普通话问他对三个月前一场篮球比赛的看法。对于一些争议特别大的文章,这方面的工作 量会更大。最近我们在做美国一家大公司的深度报道。在事实核查部分,我们交给这家公司的问题单一共有九百七十一个问题。
  
事实核查对于一个记者来说,用处到底在哪儿呢?可能觉得跟你的文章没有太大的关系。一旦你意识到有这么一个事实核查的过程,或者有人在背后为你做 这个工作,你在工作过程中需要它的程度其实会越来越低的。因为你知道,总会有人做这个工作,你自己在写东西的时候会特别仔细和小心。比如刚才说的 九百七十一个问题,你知道这话说出去之后,事实核查员完成核查工作后说,你这个错了,不是九百七十一而是九百七十二。你在说这话的时候,必须对自 己诚实,你是不是百分之百地确信这个数字或事实是正确的。
  
当然,除了适用这些具体的数字和硬性的事实之外,放到更大的范围来讲,事实核查还包括一些相对概念性的话题。我写贾樟柯的时候,提到他为什么决定 从地下走到地上成为一个体制内的导演,讲了一下他的心路历程,以及他作为一个电影人在中国扮演的角色的变化。在第一稿的时候,我把论述的重点弄错 了。后来在做事实核查的时候,他们打电话给贾樟柯,提出做一下调整,能够找到一种更好的方式去描述他的变化。所以说,同样的原则,虽然这些事实看 起来很抽象,但还是需要事实核查。如果没有后面的事实核查,我还要回头再去做采访,才能让自己的报道尽可能准确。
  
下面我会讲一些和职业道德有关的原则,当然一个特别明确的原则是,你不能接受采访对象的任何馈赠,哪怕是一件T恤、一个茶杯或一顶帽子。有的时候 别人非得给,我便转赠给司机。你经常可以看到我的司机带着一些特别时髦的小配件。你要搞明白你是忠于哪一方,是忠于你的读者?忠于你的采访对象? 亦或忠于你自己?
  
有的时候在忠于哪一方的问题上,不是简单地忠于其中一方,而是要在三者之间找到一个复杂微妙的平衡。我曾经做了一个关于中国基督教发展过程的报 道,当时有家电视台也要拍一个纪录片,我们就一同去了一个家庭教会。我们知道,私人组织的教会是不合法的,这个家庭教会的牧师同意我们来拍,接受 我们的采访也冒着很大的风险。即使在接受之后,我们也和牧师反复地商讨这个想法到底是不是安全,是不是个好主意。然而牧师愿意这么做,愿意别人知 道他的故事,愿意冒这个险。但是他有一个条件:在电视台播出之前先看带子。一般来说,电视台的人都不会在播出之前给采访对象看带子,因为很多人看 了之后可能会反悔,说我不想被拍到片子里什么的,这样就会有问题。但是在美国工作的媒体人可能不太了解这位牧师所面临的巨大压力,因为他们所处的 位置本来就非常敏感,他们愿意把自己的故事放到公众的播放平台去播放,本身就是一件非常勇敢的事。于是,双方就妥协了一下,在播出之前给这个牧师 看了带子。他们在纽约的老板就很不高兴,因为这不符合美国的职业道德手册。但我觉得既然人家愿意冒这么大的风险让你采访,我们也要对这份勇敢负 责。
  
刚才的这个例子可能会给人一种印象:要保护采访对象其实很容易,可以用这种态度来处理这些故事。然而有的时候却不是这样的,比如说,在做李阳疯狂 英语那篇采访的时候,我采访了一个人,他参加了李阳英语的培训。他有一个兄弟参加了老鼠会,亏了一大笔钱。后来做事实核查的时候给他打电话,他听 了这段,觉得他兄弟的故事被写进去不太好,让邻居知道他兄弟参加老鼠会,这比较丢人,他不想家丑外扬。但是我觉得他和他兄弟的故事对于这篇文章或 者对于文章观点的阐述是非常重要的,他和他的兄弟都是渴望相信某种东西、某个组织,哪怕这个观念到后来会对他们自身造成伤害都不在乎。我觉得这是 一个非常重要的观点。后来我就和这个人聊,说这个故事若是被删掉的话,对别人也没有更多的帮助;如果你的故事被更多的人了解,明白这里的利害关 系,就可以让更多的人避免调入同样的陷阱。采访对象后来同意了,这一段被原封不动的保留了下来,我也很欣赏采访对象的勇气。
  
回到一开始讲的罗伯特的故事,他讲自己杀害了一个无辜的平民,但是又让我不要发表。我的编辑觉得应该发表,因为这个故事有公共价值。我记得之前有 个编辑给过我忠告:做记者非常重要的原则就是不要伤害周围的人,也要保护他们不受自己的伤害。一方面这个故事发表后会对公众舆论产生一些引导性的 影响,让大家思考这个战争是不是正义,是否还应该继续下去。但另一方面,这件事说出来,对他本人也会造成很大的伤害。我觉得他既然跟我说了,就说 明他守不住这个秘密,他想说,但只是时候还没有到,没有到把这个秘密公开的地步。我在写文章的时候遵守了自己的诺言,没有把它写进去。
  
几个月之后,这个人以自己的方式把它公开了,《芝加哥论坛报》又写了另外一篇关于他的故事的文章。后来他成为美国反伊拉克战争中一个非常重要的活 动家。如果我当初不遵守诺言把故事发表了,这一切还会发生吗?我不知道,但是罗伯特的故事让我相信:不要伤害周围的人,不要伤害采访对象。这也是 我从那个时候起一直遵守的一个原则。
  
我就讲到这里,非常感谢你们的聆听。
  
张立宪:我不知道在座各位有多少人看过《纽约客》杂志,我手上这本,是今年一月份的某一期。这本杂志创刊于1925年,看着毫不起眼,骑马钉,八 十页,放在中国的报摊上,还不如其他许多杂志气派。小欧在演讲的一开始设置了一个悬念,他怎么处理大兵的故事。我在开场白的时候也想设置一个悬 念,但我一紧张给忘了。
  
小欧长期给《读库》供稿,北京很多媒体的同行也知道他。小欧采访过艾未未,有家精英杂志的记者也采访过艾未未,他最后发表的文章比小欧的还长,可 是我和他探讨时,他认为他没有小欧写得好。另外一个例子是《读库1006》上发表的小欧那篇文章,介绍一家在中国销售红酒的公司。小欧给我的是英 文原稿,我让一个喜欢做翻译的媒体朋友帮忙看看这篇文章。他说这个公司我知道,没多大意思,并且这样的文章发出来,是不是会被读者理解为"软 文"?这是一个非常有意思的问题,他就认为以一家红酒公司为主角的文章就不应该发出来,要发出来肯定就是收了广告费或红包。当然最后我们还是发出 来了,我相信大家会对小欧、对《纽约客》的新闻伦理有一个基本的信任,正是基于这个信任,这篇文章才不至于遭到怀疑。为什么他们能让大家产生这种 信任?刚才小欧已经把这个悬念揭开了。下面我们一起往下探讨。
  
提问:我想问一个关于写作方面的问题。我经常有这样的困惑,采访已经很充分了,但是我没有很好的思维把它组织成一篇出色的文章。当您面对这个问题 的时候,是怎么处理的。包括刚才说的红酒的文章,我也读了,这是一篇非常好的文章。我想问的是如何把采访变成非常好的文章。
  
欧逸文:说到《红的》这篇文章,这是少有的采访对象对我的文章不太满意的一例,他们觉得文章说得太狠了——充分说明这个公司对自己的认识有多高。 关于怎么把采访的材料变成一篇文章,我想引用一个我很喜欢的美国作家的一句话:太容易了,你坐下来,趴在键盘上,就开始吐血吧。
  
你是写东西的人,就知道写东西是一个很痛苦的过程,你也知道你敲进去的哪些东西是假的,是绝对不会出现在最后成形的文章里的,即使这样你还是得 写,如果不写那就是投降。对于怎么写这件事,没有一个固定的公式或者模式可以传授。我自己的工作效率也很低,把两棵大树削成两根筷子很难。这么多 的采访稿做成一百五十页的大纲,再从这一百五十页的大纲里提炼再提炼,留下最精华的材料,再在里面加工。
  
提问:谢谢你的讲座,我收获很大。我有两个问题,你刚才提到玖龙纸业的采访是抓住了它的年度财务报告会,但是如果你的截稿日是在下周四,但是报告 会是在下个月,你怎么办?另外一种情况,如果你的截稿日是下周四,发布会也是在下周四,你还有时间可以赶上交稿,你是会把文章先写完,然后去发布 会,还是等发布会结束后再写?还有一个问题是你什么时候开始写这篇文章?我的意思是,你必须一个月之后才能抓到这篇稿子最主要的采访,但是截稿日 期在十天之后,你怎么办?
  
欧逸文:玖龙纸业那篇文章,其实新闻发布会不是关键,CEO在新闻发布会上说的东西,都是马上会被报道出来的,没有什么特别的价值。我只是以此为 借口跑到那儿去,让张茵看到我,为自己争取到了这么一个采访机会。我觉得每当我要准备写一篇稿子的时候,自己总是很幸运。要采访贾樟柯,正好他下 周要回山西老家。跟采访对象接触的关键是总会有这么一些事,如果你有创造力地去找、去发现的话,总是有这么一个契机去接近他。如果实在没办法,你 的截稿日期真的到了,但是你拿到的采访是一个月之后,我建议你换一个方式,不从这个角度来写,从别的角度,想办法用现在就可以用的渠道,可以有的 材料开始写,可能是比较次的选择了。
  
又说到玖龙纸业那个事,对方的公关团队总跟我说,不会让你去采访,不会让你进工厂,别来了。但我就去,当别人叫你走的时候你偏不走开。一个大公 司,一个大名人,一天会收到十几封邮件,每个记者都说自己是非常重要的,你要接受我的采访。你唯一能做的就是不断地坚持,千万别受到打击就放弃。 玖龙纸业也做了明智的选择,我说我既然已经到了这个城镇,你不让我进去看,我就自己和下班的工人聊,虽然光聊没有进去看好。公关团队最后还是选择 带着我们进去看了,并且也得到了不错的文章,我所报道的他们公司的CEO确实像个人,而不是特别邪恶的一般意义上的公司老总。我又要坚持一开始说 的原则:一定要去,不管有没有可能都得去,去了之后说不定就有可能了。
  
提问:我们知道《纽约客》是一本很有品质的杂志,但是刚才从你的讲述中,得知你的每次采访都是不计成本的,包括那套名贵的西装,那么《纽约客》的 财务状况如何?为什么你每次的采访都能投入如此多的财力呢?
  
欧逸文:关于成本,《纽约客》有一些报道的确是花费不菲。我去年做的一个报道,整个旅行的过程就六个月,在美国转了一圈,之后去印度,之后到中 国,从西部回到北京。为什么要这么做?因为只能这样才能写得出来。《纽约客》在花钱上的安排,拍摄照片其实不太花钱,因为不是什么时装杂志,照片 本来就少。而且一旦加入这个团队,所有人都有一个共同的信仰:我所做的一切都是为了这个工作,为了这个故事。我们的记者飞来飞去也不坐商务舱,我 那套名贵的西装也是我自己花钱买的。有时候也有很昂贵的差旅费,但如果编辑认可你的故事的想法,觉得有价值,他会为你努力争取足够的条件让你去 做。我觉得现在这个时代有《纽约客》这种做法的杂志存在,自己能够为它工作,这非常幸运。我自己从来没有因为成本的问题而被拒绝,编辑从来没有因 为成本太高而不让我去做这个故事。当然,记者也不可能靠这个发财。
  
提问:你刚刚说了很多可以拿到第一手资料的情况,我的问题涉及更多的是编辑的层面,记者也会有这样的问题,当你不能接触到采访对象,比如一个关押 的政治犯或者已经死掉的人,这样的情况你怎么处理?当你拿到的二手信息当中有很多的矛盾或者是一团迷雾,你看不清什么是真的时候,这个报道你将如 何处理?
  
欧逸文:你的这个问题,主题不一样,每次情况也不一样。我举一个例子,最近《纽约客》发表了一篇很长的文章,关于一个已经执行死刑的犯人的故事, 讲法院对他的判决是否公正。法院方面有各种各样的证据证明这个人的确是有罪的,他放火把自己房子烧了,所有人都烧死了。但是这个人留下了很多情感 上的资料,包括他写给朋友的信,自己记的日记,在狱中跟狱友说的话,他一直都是坚持自己是无辜的。只有这些情感上的资料,并不能算作证据,只有日 记和书信还不能支撑起这个故事。记者最后完完整整做了一场犯罪调查,他去了犯罪现场,找到了法院在出示证据里的一些很明显的错误,当然记者本身不 是专家,他还找了一些独立的对纵火案有研究的专家去翻阅材料,他们发现了一些明显的错误,同时去找那些当初就注意到了文件中有疏漏的人,包括律师 和其他的专家。他在文章里整个重演了一遍这个人的人生故事和事情的整个过程。这个文章出来之后,在美国国内引起了很大的轰动,的确值得受到这么大 的关注。
  
我要补充一点,如果你觉得我是一个周报或者日报的记者,我们这个媒体一周出一次,一天出一次,这么紧的截稿时间,我怎么会看一些和自己无关的资 料,还把那么多时间花在整理这些事情上,万一我折腾了两个月,时间都浪费了,但是没有任何意义。
  
你得对自己很诚实:我不是最好的作者,也不是最好的采访者,也不是最擅长问那些对抗性问题的。我唯一可以保证的一点是,我愿意工作更长的时间,愿 意付出比其他人更多的时间和精力在这件事情上。
  
记者也是一样的,记者这一行,没有朝九晚五就能把事情做完的。你要决定写一个东西,在一段时间内,就不能让这件事情离开你。
  
提问:我想问一个关于选题的问题,你怎么选择写什么东西?如果你的文章在事实核查阶段出了错,记者会受罚吗?
  
欧逸文:第一个问题是怎么选要写的内容和对象。记者或者作者在选择话题的时候,不是靠一套科学客观的话能说清楚的,就像做拼图一样,有时候就是那 一刻的灵光一现,觉得这就是我想写的。你的选题决定之后,报给编辑,编辑说这个不行,往往是个很大的打击。我在选择关于中国的人和事的时候,比方 说人物,我会选那些个性鲜明,个人故事比较能撑起一篇文章、能推动事情向前发展的,这个人本身带有一种戏剧张力在里面,能够推动故事发展的那种 人。他不一定特别有名,就像《中国愤青》里的那位学生,他本身有某种戏剧性或某种代表性。我写的文章就像一棵松树,有一个树干,就像文章的主题, 比方说,我要写奥运会火炬传递为什么在那么多国家会有争议,实际上这个主干往上会有很多分支,分支上可以添加很多跟它有关系的旁的东西,比方说, 现代大学生对祖国的看法跟二十年前的大学生的看法有什么不一样,这些可以作为枝叶添加上去。选人的时候会考虑这些,可能有个普遍的倾向,这些人都 是在两种角色中间来回摇摆,像贾樟柯,他不是一个持不同政见者的地下导演,也不是一个标准的商业片导演,他就是想做两者中间的事,这让我有兴趣写 他。
  
如果文章在事实核查阶段出了错,我们不会被罚钱,但是上了杂志就麻烦了。
  
提问:我有一个问题,在中国大部分的媒体中,相对于时政和经济记者,报道和您的选题类似的,比如人文、文化、艺术这些部门的记者被认为是次要的。 刚才你说你对经济一窍不通,但是报道也做得很好。美国新闻界是不是也会有类似的做法,如果别人提出类似的问题,你怎么反驳他们?
  
欧逸文:可能在任何一个新闻机构都有这样的食物链,处于食物链上方的大鱼得到的资源多,有可能会吃掉小鱼。这种系统在大的单位可能不可避免,但 《纽约客》比较特殊,我们本来人就不多,是一个很小的机构。人本来就少,排不成队,看上看下也就那么几个人。是不是报道政经的就比报道文化的记者 更重要?在美国好像不太存在这样的问题。美国最有名、最好的记者都是指有风格的新闻写作,你可以写政治人物,也可以写经济人物,不是写生活八卦, 而是放在更广阔的文化背景里讨论,不是专业的政治或经济报道。《华盛顿时报》有一个版块,都是一些名气很大、写得比较长的文章。有可能写白宫的那 帮人都觉得自己挺牛的。但如果你是专门做娱乐版块,也不一定说你是狗仔,只能写八卦,你也可以选一个大众明星,对他进行深度调查,把他的一些黑暗 的一面报道给大家,那你也就是一个新闻记者的深入报道了。
  
提问:我有两个问题,一个是关于选题的,是不是有一个"纽约客"似的框架在那里,每次选题都要符合或者按照那个框架去选?第二,你在大学的时候是 学什么专业的?
  
欧逸文:我们的选题不一定有一个"纽约客"似的大框架在那里,你要选一些"纽约客"似的选题,让杂志的整体风格看起来一致,我们的编辑在这方面比 较宽容,很愿意看杂志的文章被不同的关注群接受。我的文章在中国会有很多的读者,有很多的朋友读,觉得很重要,这让我很高兴。我唯一被拒的选题是 关于巴基斯坦的,以后我会离巴基斯坦远一点。我们记者开会时会开玩笑,有时候你提一个选题,被编辑通过了,那当然是很好的事,相当于一个很大的馈 赠。但同时也是一个风险,他们把你推到悬崖边上了,跳不跳随你。因为接下来的两三个月你会花他们的钱和自己的时间精力投入到这个故事中,如果这个 故事一开始没有选对,那后悔都来不及。
  
我在大学本科学的是政治学,研究中国,我对中国很有兴趣,所以很早就来过中国。我也没有别的技能,所以只能当记者。
  
刚才说到巴基斯坦选题被拒的故事,不是因为太远了,有成本和政治敏感的考虑才被拒绝,而是因为这篇文章是关于环保的,没有太大意义。如果你在一个 大的媒体单位工作,你本来是在跑这个口,但你现在想转另外一个口,你多向另外那个部门提选题,报你的想法,给他们写文章。一开始可能会被拒绝,觉 得这不是你的专业,你别来搀和,但是如果坚持不懈总是会有转机的。你要做得比较聪明,不要一开始就气势汹汹地让做这个专题的人觉得你是来抢饭碗 的,但是如果你对那个领域感兴趣,就要多表现自己,表现的聪明一点,不要放弃。
  
提问:在事实核查当中,一些采访对象反悔了怎么处理?
  
欧逸文:有的时候,的确会有人在事实核查时说我没有说过这个话,我说的不是这个意思。但其实这个发生频率是很低的。因为一般来说,如果是一个长期 跟踪报道的人,已经和这个人待这么长时间了,掌控得会比较好,和他的关系也把握得比较好。如果是那些短暂的采访,见一两次面,也会事先告诉采访对 象,会有这么一个事实核查的过程,你过一段时间会接到一个纽约打来的电话,核实今天说的这些话。一般这些采访对象都表示很愿意合作,因为在某种程 度上也是让他们自己觉得这是很有尊严的一件事,表示这家媒体很尊重你,要把你现在说的话和信息做到最准确、最正确,他们非常关心有没有扭曲自己的 原意。所以,人们往往都会比较合作。那些会反悔和生气的人,他怎么着都会生气的,无论你是发表还是核查后发表,他都会不高兴。一般来说,对你提出 质疑或者不同意见的采访对象没有那么多,而且在采访时会有录音,证明这不是私人谈话,而是对一本杂志一个媒体的迟早要被公开的谈话。有的时候不能 录,我就记笔记,有时没有录音机和录音笔,就需要依靠笔记。事实核查对写报道本身也是特别有帮助的事。
  
提问:我想问一个写作的问题,在过往的案例中,您有没有觉得哪个故事您写得比较精彩,想请教一下这个故事的写作过程是怎么样的?
  
欧逸文:我自己印象最深刻、最满意的是《中国愤青》,我写的是一帮特别想表达自己的意见但是没有自己的渠道和方式的年轻人。他们之所以在网上发表 那样的言论,是因为一方面他们有很多东西要说,一方面希望西方媒体去尊重和倾听他们的意见。我出现在他们面前,进入他们的世界,听取他们的想法。 我觉得这些年轻人给了我很多东西,我也希望通过杂志专业性的报道,反过来帮助这些年轻人更多的了解到,外媒出一个什么错,不一定背后有一个惊天的 大阴谋,可能就是媒体工作的人截稿时间到了,比较匆忙,犯了个错误。在这个过程中,双方都有一些获益。
  
提问:不要伤害周围人的原则,在你的采访过程中是怎么运用的?比如说那个美国大兵是能够让人引起采访者情感共鸣的对象,你要把不要伤害的原则用到 他身上很容易。你提到那个被错杀的死刑犯人,你跟他在情感上的认同度没有那么高,在碰到这样采访对象的时候,怎么来做两者之间的平衡?
  
欧逸文:不要伤害采访对象这个原则,不是说不要去做对他们有害的行为,或者总是为他们着想。比如你发现采访对象在撒谎,你说出来肯定是对他有害 的,也没有维护他的利益,但是如果你不这样做,你就是在伤害读者。最初告诉我这个原则的是一个老记者,他在新闻行业干了四十年,也不是特别有名, 不是什么高级编辑。在退休那天,单位给他开了一个退休Party,看到那个现场,我也觉得很可悲。这样的一个记者退休了,人们也不会记住他很长时 间。但是我走上前去问这个老记者对我有什么建议?我原本想他会说一些"要出去,到现场"这样励志的话,但是那个老记者说,不要伤害采访对象,不要 伤害周围的人。
  
这让我很震惊,不要简单地理解这条原则,也不要简单地理解采访对象。在你没有深入接触他的时候,他往往给所有的人都会有一个固定的印象,这个人是 值得同情的,或者是个好人,或者是一个恶人。一开始带着这样的想法接近他,这个故事就无法深入下去,好像是在做这个人物专题的时候,跟这些人走得 越近,就会发现公共人格越没有意义,因为每天都在想这个人,想他的经历、情感,个人的决定和背后的情感动因,慢慢地会发现,其实这个人并不是像一 个面具一样,有固定的性格能够把他概括,而是由一个个细小的机遇或者事件堆积起来的。
  
提问:我有三个问题,一个是在采访之前,你怎么去组织你的问题,是在网上搜集很多资料,根据资料来安排问题呢?还是尽量减少特别杂乱的信息?第二 个问题,采访对象是不是都知道《纽约客》这本杂志?比如说《中国愤青》里的那个年轻人,还有张茵这样的人,他们是不是知道这本杂志?在跟他们介绍 的时候怎么去介绍这本杂志?第三,怎么和采访对象后来建立起比较近的个人的关系?
  
欧逸文:我听说有一些记者是什么准备都不做,就一片空白地去提问。这些记者对我来说就像外星来的一样,不能理解他们是怎么想的。我的工作方式当然 跟这是完全不一样的。有一个很好的中国同事跟我一起做研究,在上网收集资料之前,我们会看网络以外的材料,比方说书。采访艾未未那一次,我们找到 了艾未未的弟弟和妈妈写的回忆录来看,根据这些材料才有可能提出不同的问题。像艾未未这样的人一天会接受很多次采访,你的问题能不能跳出来,你必 须防止采访对象会像自动答录机一样按固定套路回答。很多名人和公众人物已经被媒体千锤百炼好多遍了,他有一套应对媒体的方式,对于你的问题他如何 回答已经非常熟了。什么问题,他如何回答,你有什么感觉,他都知道。你的问题要跳出这种模式,要让他对你的问题有反应,在问艾未未的时候我就会提 到,你妈妈在回忆录里写你爸爸被人从作协踢出来,你当时是什么反应。这样的问题可能一下子就能抓住艾未未的注意力,他觉得对方是有备而来的,我得 认真听问题。
  
问一些小乡镇、农村的人《纽约客》是什么,这可能对当地人来说并不重要。你来自哪个媒体对他们而言并不重要,你只要说明来意就行了。大城市很多人 都知道《纽约客》,它的名声也挺好,人们听到是《纽约客》的记者,就知道这不是那种冒个泡泡就没了、又快又短的小新闻,而是比较深入的报道,会花 几个月的时间和你在一起,你不会像一个新闻标题一样一下就过了,我们会跟采访对象会建立一种相互尊重的关系。
  
我在跟采访对象介绍自己杂志的时候,也会说,我敢保证这篇文章是你一生当中受到最多的关注,我们会把所有的注意力和时间倾注到你的每个小细节上, 虽然不保证我们文章的每个字你都满意都喜欢,但是肯定是所有媒体记者里给予你最大关注的。
  
提问:您在大学里学的政治学,毕业加入美国媒体之后,有没有接受过系统的媒体训练?对于中国人来说,我们老是觉得美国新闻记者非常专业,有很多的 规范,工作流程也很多。你一开始工作的时候,有没有接受过系统的训练?当你转到《纽约客》的时候,《纽约客》对你的写作方式有没有改变或者影响?
  
欧逸文:我没有经过专业的新闻的训练,我一开始是作为实习生进入媒体。刚进入媒体的实习生都会写一些比较小的故事。刚开始会被安排去写讣告,不是 因为这不重要、死人不会抱怨,而是因为去世的人还有家人、朋友,都是深爱他的人,你在讣告上把一个刚死去的人的生平事实弄错了,会很愧疚。年轻的 记者会很清楚地意识到,在自己的文章里犯错是一个很大的问题。如果在《芝加哥论坛报》上第二日刊登一个更正说前一天哪个地方写错了,这是非常重大 的事。我第一次出现文章被更正的时候吓坏了,其实只是把一个街名写错了,也不算什么大错。我当时以为会被解雇,另谋其他的营生,比如当个木匠什么 的。后来我没有被解雇,但我有很深的印象,这些训练、周围的工作环境给我的感觉是,犯错是一个不被允许的事。美国的记者基本上都是在一边实践一边 工作一边学习的过程中成长起来的,没有单独的训练。
  
至于如何写得好,我建议你多读你喜欢的作者的文章,我是大量的读,几乎是把这些文章解剖了一遍。从头到尾,从这儿到那儿,哪些人,我会在脑子里重 构这些人的工作过程。这一点对我很有帮助。《纽约客》不会直接指导你应该怎么写,但是它会从一些比较细小的方面影响你。现在一个特别重要的想法 是,你的文章里的每一个字必须要给读者一点东西,必须是能够最准确地表达你意思的字或者句子才能用。一般的作者写东西的时候,一个句子这样写、那 样写都没有区别。不一定每个字都那么去抠,但是在《纽约客》,如果你写得比较模糊和潦草的话,编辑会在模糊的地方拿红笔在旁边批一下,到时候你还 得改,你可能会花一天或半天的时间想一个句子。比如你怎么描述中国的文化大革命,对于美国来说,这么抽象的一个政治运动,你要跟其他国家的政治运 动区别开来,你要找一个比较独特的、个人的视角,而不是随便哪个杂志哪篇文章都会有的视角。这可能是《纽约客》给我的影响吧。
  
提问:我的问题是关于怎么选题和怎么写的。《纽约客》大部分读者在美国,您的读者也大多是对中国感兴趣的。在某种程度上讲,虽然写的是特别具体的 人和事,您有没有考虑过给读者呈现一个什么样的中国?通过这些文章间接地告诉他们中国在发生了哪些事,是他们理解和认识中国的渠道,通过这个渠 道,他们也在选择怎么认知。您是怎么考虑这个问题的?
  
欧逸文:我到中国之后,把写的第一篇文章发给编辑看,编辑给我的意见是,你应该停下来想一想刚到中国来的第一印象是什么?这听上去有点奇怪,不是 需要我们不带西方人的观点和眼光,用中国的经验来写中国的故事吗?为什么提这样的建议?可能是大部分的西方读者还是希望能有一个他们熟悉的语境让 他们了解这个故事。在我写的文章里有一个恒定的主题,就是变化。这看起来比较普通,世界万事万物都在变,但实际上挺不容易的。现在感觉美国一直没 什么变化。我有个中国朋友去了纽约,回来之后说今年的感受和去年差不多。现在世界上没有几个地方像中国那样,生活能在很短的时间里发生这么大的变 化。
  
我写文章要找两个感受,一是身处这个变化当中是什么感受,二是作为一个旁观者,不像处在社会上层那些受益者一样,在观看这些变化的过程中,你是什 么样的印象和感受。
  
张立宪:我手头还有大家递上的几个纸条,简单问几个问题:根据你的观察,你在中国,和本土记者相比,有哪些优势和劣势?中国记者在国外和当地记者 相比,有哪些优势和劣势?第二个问题是一个要参加高考的学生提的,问你对她有什么建议?她喜欢传媒,大学专业是学政治学还是学传媒?第三个问题是 你来评价一下,你和何伟谁写得好?
  
欧逸文:我觉得第三个问题比较容易,我觉得何伟是一个更好的作者。
  
第一个问题,可能作为一个外来者、局外人,我带来了一种和本地人不一样的视角,因为背负的是不一样的历史,看东西也是从不一样的角度。有的人会觉 得你这是西方人的角度、美国人的角度,过于主观,不够客观。我知道一位著名的波兰游记作家,走了世界很多地方,写的很多文章都很棒。但是对于什么 是波兰的角度,什么是波兰人的眼光,我也不知道,我就知道他写得很棒。
  
关于第二个问题,应该上什么大学,我没有接受过正规的新闻学院的训练,但是我现在成了一个新闻记者。我自己招人,也不会单纯因为他是学新闻出身才 雇佣他,要看他是否有天然的好奇心,够不够勤奋和努力,愿不愿意为这一行投入大量的时间和精力。我觉得工作上的热情和好奇心比专业训练管用得多。
  
张立宪:最后请小欧说几句结束语。
  
欧逸文:感谢老六,作为一个外媒,往往会被人觉得只是把中国当成一个话题,想在中国人身上捞点什么带走。非常高兴在中国有这么多读者和同行对我们 的工作表示了认可和支持,这一点对我而言非常宝贵。也感谢翻译杜杜小姐,感谢到场的各位。
  
张立宪:刚才的纸条上还有一个问题,问《纽约客》已经八十六岁了,长寿的秘诀是什么?去年也是在这个场地,LP的CEO 马修先生(Matthew Goldberg)讲他们的经营之道和编辑理念的时候,现场一个同行说,你讲的道理都很简单,很容易做到啊,你有没有更好的秘诀?马修先生说他不愿意讲新 的秘诀了。今天小欧讲的《纽约客》的秘诀,也很简单,也很容易做到,一本杂志就这样做了八十六年。我们能不能也把这些简单的事情做到?
  
谢谢大家,今天的讲座到此结束。


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结果子的树 (春天) 2011-03-26 23:03:05

但是我现在成了一个新闻记者。我自己招人,也不会单纯因为他是学新闻出身才雇佣他,要看他是否有天然的好奇心,够不够勤奋和努力,愿不愿意为这一 行投入大量的时间和精力。我觉得工作上的热情和好奇心比专业训练管用得多。
--------------------------------------春天到了,希望我的种子发芽。


沉默的风景 (本是后山人,偶做前堂客。) 2011-03-27 00:26:58


张立宪:扁平化。


3月10日,欧逸文同学应《读库》之邀,做了关于《纽约客》杂志采写规范的讲座。过后许久,我仍沉浸其中。

讲座记录整理出来,相信其中有许多要点令媒体同行感叹复感慨。我感触较深的,是小欧提到的对选题的判断标准:"比方说人物,我会选那些个性鲜明, 个人故事比较能撑起一篇文章、能推动事情向前发展的,这个人本身带有一种戏剧张力在里面。"

所谓选题,就包含了"选择"的意思。比如张艺谋和贾樟柯,两人中你会选择哪一个做你的采访对象?我与好友聊起小欧的讲座现场,说,他给我的最大提 醒是,不要选择那些扁平化的人。

就像小欧选择了贾樟柯:"这些人都是在两种角色中间来回摇摆,他不是一个持不同政见者的地下导演,也不是一个标准的商业片导演,他就是想做两者中 间的事,这让我有兴趣写他。"

而我们习惯性的判断依据,往往是这个人的显著性或稀缺性,而非复杂性、戏剧性。长此以往,谁声名显赫、难以采访到,谁就被越多的媒体包围,记者强 调"采访到他了"远胜于"采访到他什么了",所谓的"独家报道"也越来越不新鲜,稍有经验的读者在看到你的文字之前,早已想到了被访的那个"复读 机"会说什么,记者的笔下又会写什么。

还有很关键的一点,是采访之后的写作。筛选事实,剪辑素材,组织文字,搭建结构,一个记者讲故事的能力,与找故事、选故事、挖故事同样重要。但小 欧在讲座中提到写作不多,尽管有现场读者问过他这个问题。他甚至不承认所就职的媒体对记者有写作方面的专门训练,只是说:"如何写得好,我建议你 多读你喜欢的作者的文章,我是大量的读,几乎是把这些文章解剖了一遍。从头到尾,从这儿到那儿,哪些人,我会在脑子里重构这些人的工作过程。这一 点对我很有帮助。"

讲座后,与《二十一世纪商业评论》的两位朋友在旁边的咖啡馆小坐,又聊起写作的话题。确实,一个人的阅读经验,对他的写作太重要了。用警句的方式 来表达:如何写得好?读得好就是了。

在坐的一位小朋友说起读库五周年的读者现场会,柴静与我提到《十九世纪文学主流》这套书,她就买了一套,现在已读完第一册,兴奋得不得了。

读过一些好书后,就知道好文字是什么样了。这位小朋友又提到人物特稿的写法,我马上想起《纽约书评》的一篇文章,约瑟夫•布罗茨基写一个人。若干 年前我看到它,当即激动地把第一段背了下来:

娜杰日达•曼德尔施塔姆活了八十一岁,其中有十九年是作为俄国二十世纪最伟大的诗人奥西普•曼德尔施塔姆的妻子度过的,还有四十二年是他的遗孀, 其余便是她的青少年时代。在知识界,尤其在文艺圈,作为一个大人物的遗孀本身就足够显示一个人的身份,俄国更是这种情形。俄国政府在三十年代和四 十年代如此高效地制造了一批作家的遗孀,以致于到六十年代中期,这些寡妇的数量足够组织一个工会了。

《纽约书评》的许多撰稿人并非记者,而是作家乃至其他行业的专家,但他们的文笔,岂不是对记者的文体、文风更有借鉴和启示?

确如小欧所说,学什么专业并不重要。但如果一个人很早把《光荣与梦想》和《巴黎烧了吗》攻读下来,他对文字的见识就至少不会差到哪儿去。不得不承 认,我们的许多从业者,视野也多是扁平化的,他们看过的好东西太少了,对好东西的好奇心更少。

小欧提到,美国的记者,并不分什么"口",跑不同领域的记者由此分出高低贵贱,"美国最有名、最好的记者都是指有风格的新闻写作"。是的,诸位同 行,也该思考一下,如何去寻找、确立自己的风格了。

编辑这次讲座的文字记录时,我忍不住设想一些同行会做出的反应。《纽约客》杂志的成本配备和业务模块的设置,肯定令大家眼热。就像中国电影导演扬 言"给我足够的钱也能拍出《泰坦尼克》《阿凡达》"一样,估计也会有人说,我要能进到这样一家媒体,温饱无忧,时间奢侈,也能做一个好记者,写出 毫不逊色的稿子。没问题,但总得先操练、演练起来吧。

小欧说:"我的工作周期一般是两到三个月一篇,有的时候是六个月一篇。在这个过程中,一篇文章大概要采访五十到八十个人,如果文章题目比较小、范 围比较窄,采访的人数要少一点。基本上每个故事写完,会有两百到三百页的采访文字。"肯定会有人绝望地说:在中国,没有媒体能做到这样,也没有记 者能做到这样。是的,也许我们不能在所有的时候、执行所有的选题时都做到这样,但能不能在某一个时段,面对某一个选题时,这样来操作一把?

讲座现场有人问,八十六岁的《纽约客》的长寿秘诀是什么。我想起2010年我们组织的Lonely Planet讲座。LP的CEO 马修先生介绍过他们的经营之道和编辑理念,有一个同行说,你讲的道理都很简单,很容易做到啊。确实很简单,《纽约客》的采写规范,看小欧他们操作,也没什 么大不了的,换到我们自己,不至于总是"心下先自怯了"吧?

我想,这样的自暴自弃或眼高手低,同样是扁平化的情绪反应。




蓬莱书僮 (我也很像学坏) 2011-04-18 09:14:16

LOL 不错 先收藏了


小不点变大不点 2011-04-19 11:40:24

感谢分享!


越人 (风中的贾科梅蒂) 2011-05-19 16:56:30

MARK


然一 (去远方吧,提拉米苏。) 2011-05-20 16:04:56

MARK

too


狗剩 (装逼是罪) 2011-07-07 16:35:30

已阅√


小饺子儿 2011-10-11 11:46:10

很不错


包包 (静候再静候) 2011-10-14 09:54:29




美子 (以自己的方式站立在敬爱的高山旁) 2012-11-30 19:06:21

好的西装很重要。
尊重采访对象,未必一次把稿子做绝。
体闵和通感。
聪明人下笨功夫。
没有白费的苦力
越多的细节越好
全面的感受


walt (众生无相) 2012-12-04 20:32:05

make


Rae是鱼骨桑 (梦在手上,路在脚下) 2012-12-15 10:37:46

我只想说,这个小组太好了,全是好文,没有水贴。组长辛苦了


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130123-艾未未在家中为鹿特丹国际电影节做评委

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有一位很希望来鹿特丹的人,

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他就是中国艺术家和异议人士艾未未。

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他是评审团的成员。

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但他没有得到中国政府的许可到荷兰来,

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因此只能在北京的家中进行电影评审。

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艾未未的画室兼住所外面到处都装有摄像头

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目前对他的软禁已经解除

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但他还是被一天24小时地监视着

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表面上他涉嫌的罪名是偷税漏税

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他自己则认为,他是因其对中国当局
的批判态度而受到阻扰

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但鹿特丹电影节组委会在邀请他
担任评委时却不知道这一情况

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当时并不知道我是不能离开北京的。

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因为北京的公安也曾经向我
保证过我是可以离开的。

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但是最后他们还是没给我护照。

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所以这个事情并不是很确定。

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他从他位于北京的画室里
通过互联网评审影片

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参赛电影被发给他,
他再把评审报告发回来

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他不是唯一一位不能去鹿特丹的评委

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一名伊朗女演员也不能离开她的国家

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在家里进行评审

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我觉得它至少说明了两个事情:

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第一,今天我们比过去更自由。

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由于技术的发展,我们更自由。

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我们可以通过技术,很容易
完成过去不能想象的事情。
由于技术的发展,我们更自由。

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我们可以通过技术,很容易
完成过去不能想象的事情。

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同时,又告诉了世界,

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我们今天比过去更不自由。

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啊,我们的艺术,我们的文化,

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我们的最,人们最喜爱的这种

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感受的系统和表达的系统

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仍然受到强权的迫害。

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抗议者:艾未未!艾未未!

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除了他最著名的工作:设计鸟巢体育场

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艾未未还以他的社会批判工作

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和有关中国社会的快速发展后果的纪录片而闻名

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他在他的做法和今年参赛的影片中看到了共同点

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这位最著名的中国异见人士
必须在本月底前完成评审工作

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因为金虎奖将于2月1日颁发。

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http://www.rnw.nl/chinese/video/877002
因为金虎奖将于2月1日颁发。

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http://www.rnw.nl/chinese/video/877002
荷兰公共电视新闻 NOS Journaal 2013年1月23日 20:00
http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/1321187#00:19:33
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http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/1321187#00:19:35

录像、字幕下载: http://goo.gl/Aohde = https://www.wuala.com /renyun.net/People/A/艾未未/2013/0123/
130123- 艾未未在家中为鹿特丹国际电影节做评委.emulecollection

http://www.rnw.nl/chinese/video/877002
艾未未在家中为鹿特丹国际电影节做评委
发表于 : 24 January 2013 - 3:10pm | By 荷兰在线 编辑部 (www.nos.nl)

受邀担任鹿特丹国际电影节评委的艾未未无法亲自来荷兰,虽然对他的软禁已经解除,但中国当局仍然不允许他出国。因此他只能在北京的家中执行评审工 作。荷兰国家电台的通讯员在北京对他进行了采访。

http://youtu.be/vMJKXLwEy7g


Ai Weiwei; jurylid op afstand http://nos.nl/artikel/465383-ai-weiwei-jurylid-op-afstand.html
Toegevoegd: woensdag 23 jan 2013, 19:00
Update: donderdag 24 jan 2013, 08:06

Ai Weiwei: Ik was er graag bij geweest http://nos.nl/video/465347-ai-weiwei-ik-was-er-graag-bij-geweest.html
woensdag 23 januari 2013, 16:042412 keer bekekenDuur: 04:51Bekijk in lagere kwaliteit
VIDEO Aan het eind van het Filmfestival in Rotterdam worden de Tiger Awards uitgereikt aan de drie beste films. In de jury van de Tiger Awards zit dit jaar de Chinese kunstenaar en dissident Ai Weiwei. Hij moet de films vanuit zijn huis in Peking jureren en zal ook niet bij de uitreiking zijn, omdat de Chinese overheid hem geen toestemming gaf om naar Nederland te reizen.

Ai Weiwei moet jureren op afstand http://nos.nl/video/465467-ai-weiwei-moet-jureren-op-afstand.html
    woensdag 23 januari 2013, 20:40
    Duur: 02:09

Video De Chinese kunstenaar en dissident Ai Weiwei was graag bij het Rotterdams filmfestival geweest. Hij zit in de filmjury van het festival, maar van de Chinese overheid kreeg hij geen toestemming om naar Nederland te reizen. Daarom moet hij de films jureren vanuit zijn huis in Peking.

Ai Weiwei: ik communiceer via e-mail met filmfestival http://nos.nl/artikel/465383-ai-weiwei-jurylid-op-afstand.html
In Rotterdam begint vandaag het Internationaal Filmfestival. En 7875 kilometer verderop, in Peking, zit een van de juryleden. Het is de Chinese kunstenaar en de bekendste dissident van het land: Ai Weiwei. Hij jureert vanuit China de films die in Nederland meedingen om de prijzen, omdat hij zijn land niet mag verlaten.

Ai Weiwei jureert films vanuit Peking http://nos.nl/audio/465547-ai-weiwei-jureert-films-vanuit-peking.html

Audio In Rotterdam is het het Internationaal Filmfestival begonnen. En 7875 kilometer verderop, in Peking, zit een van de juryleden. Het is de Chinese kunstenaar en de bekendste dissident van het land, Ai Weiwei. Hij jureert vanuit China de films die in Nederland meedingen om de prijzen, omdat hij zijn land niet mag verlaten. Een bijdrage van correspondent Karen Eshuis.

Ai Weiwei in filmjury Rotterdam http://nos.nl/artikel/459695-ai-weiwei-in-filmjury-rotterdam.html
Toegevoegd: dinsdag 8 jan 2013, 22:01
Update: woensdag 9 jan 2013, 07:19

'Ai Weiwei bleek een beetje optimistisch voor afreis naar Rotterdam'
De Chinese dissidente kunstenaar Ai Weiwei is dit jaar jurylid bij het filmfestival in Rotterdam. Maar hij zal dat wel vanuit huis moeten doen. Want vanwege een beschuldiging van belastingfraude mag hij China niet verlaten.Festivaldirecteur Rutger Wolfson vertelt hoe men in contact kwam met dit eminente jurylid.














101210 中共大使张军被调戏 评论存档

101210 中共大使张军被调戏 http://youtu.be/oliHecdSgAc

很多共匪海外五毛狗习惯鼓吹种族仇恨,骂维族异议人士的同时骂荷兰的土耳其人。

http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=oliHecdSgAc
Wesley Liu 9 months ago
哈哈哈哈,"这是谁放进来的?"。?

suesuebot 10 months ago
外交官不错啊,?

jjjjjly 10 months ago
荷兰在哪???

Jack Wang 1 year ago
我的第一感觉是,要是中国人去送花,你肯定进不到那里。? 这大使也可怜的,被戏弄的不成样子

yewei92 1 year ago
我感觉大使馆很黄?

剛 趙 1 year ago
笑的我肚子难受?

MrRocLeo 1 year ago
GRD 土共!?

Kelly Wong 1 year ago
谁丫放进来的啊? 狗窝里面跑进个说人话的真不像话

本人 我 1 year ago
无法观看的,可以使用goagent翻墙,?

委员会 治丧 1 year ago
这是谁放进来的啊??

ilyjx 1 year ago
这样的调戏我喜欢哈哈哈?

Amycadad 1 year ago
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7fanliang 1 year ago
TMD笑死哥了。。天朝大使的表情和耍太极招式太有型了。。【你-们打算如何对待一个获得诺贝尔奖的人。。是要把他们关进监狱呢?-还是怎样?】 2333?

Alec Su 1 year ago
請問CN區如何設定才能看視頻,透過hosts文件怎么修改?m-any? thanks~

7fanliang 1 year ago
hosts已经无法观看视频? 挂代理吧

TaTa765583 1 year ago
好好笑?

chjialong 1 year ago
笑死了......这哥们在模仿国内官方的语气......?

lychnu 1 year ago
真TM笑死我了?

iNDY Jones 1 year ago
不知道后面放他进来的人会被怎样对待呢?

iNDY Jones 1 year ago
好搞啊?

Liu Victor 1 year ago
lol thumbs up for the journalist?

Zongyi Gao 1 year ago
haha~?

在这里放个话 我 1 year ago
我得承认,这个外交官不是SB,非常聪明,对答机灵,已臻完美。-。。。。只是,只是,正义确实不在他手里。就这么简单。?

kafaafa 1 year ago
这是谁放进来的....?

在这里放个话 我 1 year ago
这大胡子哥们跟空气握手,笑屎了!!!?

在这里放个话 我 1 year ago
这哥们要遇到,非请他吃饭不可?

在这里放个话 我 1 year ago
这哥们头发肿么长反了?

blackgenes850 1 year ago
传到国内的视频网站?

baochanglee 1 year ago
笑死我了,同时也很愤怒,这些人民养的王八蛋?

Minch Chen 1 year ago
这是谁放进来的啊? 哈哈哈哈? 临时工放的

Xinwei Shu 1 year ago
哈哈哈哈,"首先我们将努力促进所有中国人的权利自由"?

ztzlking 1 year ago
其实大使修养还是算好的了。。。?

在这里放个话 我 1 year ago
我得承认,这个外交官不是SB,非常聪明,对答机灵,已臻完美。--。。。。只是,只是,正义确实不在他手里。就这么简单。??

dw youyoutianbulao 1 year ago
哈哈~~~,这是谁放进来的??

kaitos111 1 year ago
给力!!哈哈哈哈~~笑死了?

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2chilan1 6 months ago
fuck? china !

batangueno14 9 months ago
Sir, please tell your government to STOP bullying us. I am a Filipino and we are peace loving people but we? are willing to DIE for our country. We are supporting all Chinese businessmen here in our country thats the reason they are now the richest families here. Please dont claim Bajo de Masinloc as part of Chinese territory. Respect the international law. thank you.

Namey Tibet 9 months ago
Winning a Nobel peace? price in China is like giving a death sentence....The winner shud be life in prison and tourcher for commiting such a horrible crime by promoting peace and nonviolence....WTF!!!

FlyingDutchman224 10 months ago
Fucking pathetic bastard this dutch immigrant living? in Holland.

wetenjan 10 months ago
also lots of chinks immigrants live in whole Europe? because of smelly chinese environment and crowded chinks insects ; ching chang chung

FlyingDutchman224 10 months ago
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And all the dirty turks and prostitutes swarming in all the European cities. Turks thinking of the revival of the Ottoman empire? Forget it moron. Return Constantinople to the christians? otherwise no membership in the EU. Fuck you and stop your wet dream otherwise the PKK will dig your graves. Bastards.

wetenjan 10 months ago
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look at the streets , son of bitch morron , chinks? dirty birches are too cheap to fuck , in Paris just 15 euro ; i was there last year fucked a chinks girl just 15 ; hahahaha , a cheap traingle pussy chinks prostitutes are all over the world as well as chinks bastards ; remmeber fuck japan fucked chinks ; ching chang chung , chinks asshole pussy sucker bitch slut piss

FlyingDutchman224 10 months ago
Your mother sold? herself for 5 euro in Amsterdam and your sister for one in Berlin. Cheap skate bastards.

wetenjan 10 months ago
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hahahah, ur bitch mom is free for japanese , sister is for Turkish nation ; so u look like little bit japanese face ; ching chang chung dong ya bing fu : go to google and type fuck chinese girls , then u can see how ur sister is being fucked by my friends? ; don,t hesitate ; hahahaha ; it is fun to show the chinks how they are fucked by others ; wowwwwwwwww

Americunt4gay 10 months ago
Guys,dont take serious on this ugly Uyghur gay fag.He just need attention.He replys every comment your write.He is an asylum seeker in Belgium and we all know that asylum seeker has no life.Next time just say:Uw? uitkering wordt per direct gestopt,pi?.Ananin amina cam dikerim, golgesinde seni sikerim

manu11435 11 months ago
lolz,seems the? chinese cat caught the tounge

456inthemix 1 year ago
:-)?

wetenjan 1 year ago
support ? LIU

FlyingDutchman224 10 months ago
He is in prison for criminal offenses. The Nobel Trouble Making Prize should be given to the Nobel? Prize committee.

wetenjan 10 months ago
because you? chinks are diserved to get that also your asshole ccp ; so u feel tragedy if someone gets it ; go to hell brain washed chinks

FlyingDutchman224 10 months ago
Get it right retard I am not from China. Stupid asshole like you cannot deferential the difference. Fuck face? turks.

wetenjan 10 months ago
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no matter what kind of pussy u r , i think u just a pussy sucker , or hahahahaah timid asshole chinks is afraid of others , come on chinks , cao ni ma? ; pretended others , hahahah , then why you feel upset on this video ? u mom is chinks raped by me ; ? or japanese ? or did u drink ops cum from chinks pussy ? no matter what kind of sperm drinker u r , u r just ching chang chung rabbish all over the world ;

MultiAlpha111 1 year ago
that bold head is? so gay

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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Congratulations for breaking up of Europese Union,China is gone fuck one by one after EU break up except Germany.Starting from Netherlands first,China hates? Netherlands more than any EU country(because they were trying to steal Taiwan from us and they fight with side UK-France ally in 18 century and chinese wont forget the history).China has the ability to fuck Netherlans in 10 days time.Get yourself ready

tobecpr 1 year ago
I dont relly 'love' Chinese government,but hav to say,it is the best way to develop China now,the thought of democratic reform is good,but it is not 4? now.
--------------------------------I really hate this 'Dutch' guy,is he really Dutch?kind of annoying= =

hkhongkongren 1 year ago
haha liu go? to hell!!!

USAsucks2hard 1 year ago
Who let the Jihad? out?Who let the fucking Jihad out?

USAsucks2hard 1 year ago
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You call Rotterdam the biggest haven-stad? of Europe?You seriously?Compare to Shanghai,Rotterdam is just a small dick country-side.Shanghai will destroy your economy if they not export anything to you.I hope Shanghai will do business with Germany.We will make Germany the biggest HaVEN-STAD OF Europe.And Schiphol is smallest airport compare to China.Everyday there will be 400 chinese people be millionaires.And how much millionares in Holland,Look at yourself in the mirror before you talk shit.

HumanRightsVideosT 1 year ago
@USA2hard
I checked your? account and found that it
has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of our Community Guidelines.
so perhaps all of your comments should be deleted

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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Yeah,After they delete my account.My hacker camp has fucked google database and i am back. and you wish,i fucked Google Inc already back to HongKong.pussy google is hiding in HongKong and cant come out and play,We have already locked Asian markt for google.I made Bing the one of most populair search egine in China and fuck? you bitch.WHAT DO YOU GOT?Money,I will murk you,bitches,i will hurt you.get enough money for your whole shitty family for 300 years.

HumanRightsVideosT 1 year ago
@ A4gay
with a channel name like that and poor english skills not many people are going? to take much notice of what you have to say
.
I'm not going to waste my time trying to figure out what you are trying to say

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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@HumanRightsVideosT @Americunt4gay still better than? you,piece of shit.there are 2 kind people,
1,people who work hard and have a good life and a lot of friends
2,people like you who doesnt even want to work,so they are asylum seekers in America and receive money from America goverment to separate China, you all FAIL.Shame on you that being an asylum seeker and Noone in America respect you,and you all are discriminated by local folks

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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still better than you,piece of shit.there are 2 kind people,
1,people who work hard and have a good life and a lot of friends
2,people like you who doesnt even want to work,so they are asylum seekers in America and receive money from America goverment to separate China, you all FAIL.Shame on you that being an asylum seeker and Noone in America respect? you,and you all are discriminated by local folks

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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I am from Aisin Gioro's family,still remember how you sucked my fore-fathers dicks?one of my most knowning fore-father Aisin-Gioro Hongli(Qianlong 乾隆)? had his dick sucked by Tibet in his whole life.Without my fore-fathers,it will be chao's in Tibet and average life age of Dalai Lama is 45 years old.All Dalai Lama's from history just cant stop killing each other.So suck my Aisin Gioro's dick

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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And one of My uncle works in Chinese parlement,I have told him this shit and he called chinese ambassador? in Holland to see if this video is real and we find out it is real.So he blocks Dikla Zeidler and Bahram Sadeghi visum to Chin.Also blocked their family and friends visum for 200 years.Any chinese bussiness who is doing business with any friends or family with them,will get punished and 100,000 dollars fine.

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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still better than you,piece of shit.there are 2 kind people,
1,people? who work hard and have a good life and a lot of friends
2,people like you who doesnt even want to work,so they are asylum seekers in America and receive money from America goverment to separate China, you all FAIL.Shame on you that being an asylum seeker and Noone in America respect you,and you all are discriminated by local folks

USAsucks2hard 1 year ago
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This is why you dont even have panda's in the Dutch zoo.Netherlands is just jealous because Chinese? president gave so much money to Netherlands's neigbours(France,germany,Belgi-um,Spain.....).Only not give it to Holland.And we will also not money away because of this.Yes,we are rich and young.Free Friesland,Groning and Limburg.I hope Shanghai will not do business with you anymore.I hope China Shipping should got to Germany,and do business with German.

HumanRightsVideosT 1 year ago
@USA2hard
I'm sure the pandas would rather live? in the wild. The Nazi party of china charges serious money for pandas which could be spent on more productive things.

USAsucks2hard 1 year ago
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This bitch censored my comments,i am speaking the true and you call this freedom to speech?Look at yourself before you wanna make? fun of another.About 95% Gries people wanna be independent from Holland. The Dutch government is planning to give control of the Frisian language and culture to the province of Groningen instead of control by the Frisians themselves. Also the Dutch government wants to put nuclear waste? in the Frisian ground.Free Friesland,Groningen and Limburg.Limburg is Germany

USAsucks2hard 1 year ago
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Fuck Holland and death to America,it is Chinese pay-back time.Free Friesland,Groningen and Limburg.Netherlands is already a small dick country and you cant even? find it on the worlf map.Now they want to be singapores.Just let them be Singapores.Frije Friesland,Groningen and Limburg.You can also suppot the separation on frijefryskegrun-tk

USAsucks2hard 1 year ago
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to all chinese brothers,Let us support the indepence of Friesland,Groningen and Limburg from Holland. about 95% (or more)? people in friesland,Groningen and Limburg want to stay parts of the netherlands.The Dutch government is planning to give control of the Frisian language and culture to the province of Groningen instead of control by the Frisians themselves. Also the Dutch government wants to put nuclear waste? in the Frisian ground.

456inthemix 1 year ago
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HA HA? HA

Necropiet 1 year ago
bloemkolen Engels ftw?

lorinsz 2 years ago
为什么中国大使馆可以让人随便进?wtf?

UighurKnight 2 years ago
because your government love people? like you who like sucking their ass. and they thought this guy would be an ass sucker like you. But this guy fucked his ass.

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lorinsz 2 years ago
Go and fuck your Uyghur ass, I know? you like it. You know what? You Uyghur people just make me disgusting, sorry I am a racist at this point.

wetenjan 1 year ago
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I wanna fuck the bitch like you , brain washed stupid pig , you don,t even know what is humanity , how is the hell are you living with morality ,? fuck up bitch chinks , u morron insects are too much disguisting all over the wolrd , come to Paris see you bitches just only 20 euro , they are your sisters bitch , long live LIU , Fu""ck ccp and stupid scamberg trash chinks like japan did before

lorinsz 1 year ago
u think u r a human? being? lol.

wetenjan 1 year ago
one question to you,? why other countries were present in the ceremony of Nobel Prize for Liu in Norway? why china reject it ? what is human right like in china ? how do you define that ? answer? ???? the answer is ccp's atitude toward Liu who promoted the human right in china ;

lorinsz 1 year ago
remember i m not trying to defend China, every country has its bad aspects, something they will never reveal, for Liu, I do admit the Chinese government made a mistake on that. The? point here is don't be fooled that only China is doing this, whenever a government see something threatened, he will do whatever he wants. For US? Same! Now it's clear that who is being brain washed.

wetenjan 1 year ago
yes every country has it shortcoming , but in pricipalsof human value ccp is criminal for the freedom of lots of things inside the country, you chinese people don,t dare express your wishes , worstly you support the ccp regime to opress the people there , follow ccp for anything to be done, this is what brain washed is ;u can share only state published news with other, but foreign media?no; youtube is open in china?no; why more chinese student were dead? 1989 ?

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
because you know your shitty country and EU is fail harder than we thought.How many debts did China bought from Belgium and what the? fuck is Belgium?I thought Belgium is better than Netherlands,but piece of shit crap courtry.Belgium is fucking creepy.Like a shithole to us.Aint no chinese live longer in Belgium shithole ghetto everywhere.Does Belgium have any world influence you fucking unknown slumdog?We are your boss,you do not talk like that to us.This' your last warning or u'r fired

wetenjan 1 year ago
hahaha, I don,t care what you say on Belgium , but remember that Belgium is one of the 2 most powerful political center around the world; in Belgium there are 6 parties who are running the gov in turn as well as king ; in Belgium youtube, facebook , google? are freely open , ppl can post anything , say anything , . but in fucking bulshit asshole china these webs are forbiden , why ? answer is that ccp is afraid to be fucked like Mubarek in Eygpe and Caddafi in Libye ;

wetenjan 1 year ago
the reason is your moron sperm drinker china is communisim is ennemy of all humanity ; it will be over like Berlin Wall collapsed soon ; you mentioned Belgium; let you stpid know that Belgium passport is NON VISA ReQUIRED nearly 100 country around the wolrd , but you toilet paper chinks passport is always needing visa for anywhere; comapare ? then why so many piglike chinks are in Europe as chinks don,t? like western country? what the hell are these shit begger doing here ?

wetenjan 1 year ago
so you just think or search well before you post sth ; or u are in the target? to be laughed ; get out

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
Faggot,what are you fucking about?Belgium is a joke to us.Twee Belgen gaan vissen in een roei bootje. zegt de eerste: er zit een gat in de boot zegt de ander: kom we maken er nog een gat bij dan kan het water er daar weer uit. you are slways be the target to be laughed in the Netherlands.It also? shows how stupid and faggot you are.At least we get money.Obama and Manchester city have proved that money can buy everything.China can easily fuck up Belgium in 20 days time.

wetenjan 1 year ago
; hahhah , we don,t care what other say about us , those trashes who talk the stupiud things are only gay chinks , hahhaha now you proved yourself as too much stupid , u have money , then why are you in foreign country ? what is the hell stupid? insect are you fucked bitch doing there ? ccp has money what about chinks in china ? they have money ? they have right to say sth about their right or freedom , ? why whole wolrd support LIU and AIWEIWEI ;

FlyingDutchman224 10 months ago
What a fool that could not even write? a proper sentence.

wetenjan 1 year ago
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fuck up yourself in Tian An men with bastard HU as? well as japanese fucked you WW1 and WW2 ; do not run from the topic bitch ; Mr liu is not talking about money ; he is talking about the future of new chinks gereration ; i leave you one question that you bitch gay go to ask bastard HU why youtube and facebook are banned in china ? consider about this , then u can get how much value you have in china ; go fuck up yourself bitch gay mixed generation from japanese sperm

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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faggot,no matter what you say,we still? get money.You shitty country Belgium borrow money from our tax.we also have no human rights(we do not want to lean money to ya fuckers).here's a deal.Free Flanders and we will free that guy.If your shitty goverment accept that we will free that traitor right way.Do Flanders have rights in Belgium?your shitty country doesnt even have your own language.Even your kingdom invite Hu to come to Belgium and Hu will cancel it right way.

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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Ohh,wait,faggot,u can read Chinese.Fucking Chino call yourself chink.HAHHAHAHAHAHa.you are fucking hilarous.fucked up Chino try to be a Belgium,Thats so fucking up.i was so wondering why Belgium people say such thing,i find out its a fucked? up Chino who leave in Belgium.No matter what yopu say u still Asian,fag..Your parents are uneducated low class in China,so they went to Belgium to open a restaurant and work the shit out of their mounth.Unlike mine,4 million euro house Utrecht.

Americunt4gay 1 year ago
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Fucked up Chino in Belgium.Friends of your parents in China are rich than you restaurant owners.No matter what you say,your family still low class in China and we rich first class people dont? like to talk to low classers(culture of China).4 million euro house in Utrecht,14 billion euro business in China.329 apartments and Villa's in Shanghai and beijing 15000 euro/Square Metre.25 million euro house in Paris France.5 European ex-wives 40.000 euro/month.You still live in Ghetto.

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Fuck? you in da ass,uighur.The name Jan is for white people who born in the Netherlands and Belgium.hahhahaha,what a faggot call himself Jan and think he is white.hahahahahhaha.You are so fucked up.what the fuck is uighur or turkey.If you are a turkish fag,i will tell you what:Yes,we kill your fucking fore-parents uighurs and how do you feel about it.

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An uighur call himself Jan,hhahahaah.you made my dick falls down.Fucked up Uighur with average lowest IQ in the world thinks he? is white.You never watch the mirror or what?OMG,what the fuck is going on with the world.I saw turkissh/uighur women marry with niggers and uighur think he is white.what the fuck is wrong with you people?

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UighurKnight 2 years ago
Don't say sorry mate, all Chinese like you are fucking racist pigs all the? time.

doende06 2 years ago
thanx alot, that? was a nice video shot.

greatwizaki 2 years ago
Shame on these two bearded guys and their antics. This was clearly aimed at humiliating the ambassador and? the CHINESE PEOPLE. If these two guys stood for more human rights in China, stage a proper protest! Somehow their appearances remind me of Pim Fortyun & what happened in Denmark and Sweden and rest of the word. SHAME!

theboyuan0jcfan 2 years ago
I hope we win the Nobel Peace Prize in true Nobel's spirit? and not as a result of political sinistry.

FreedomInAmerica 2 years ago
President Carter got the peace prize too. You know Obama was nominated for the Nobel Peace prize twelve days after taking office. Upon acceptance of winning it, Obama was praised by the committee, "extraordinary? efforts to strengthen international diplomacy". . They also gave the peace prize to Yasser Arafat, the leader of the PLO, the best known terrorist organization on the globe. This is like giving it to David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK.
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Allen West 2012

markshen1985 2 years ago
Does this asshole dare to visti american embassy and ask to free? Assange? Losers. Suck your american father's dick.

live2changetheworld1 2 years ago
Incredibly SMART !!!
It's cracks me up ....LOL
Bravo? Vagic !

komr323 2 years ago
Assuming award to Liu is correct and Chinese govt is incorrect, it is irrespecutful to visit chinese embassy with this kind of attitude. Shame on this? dutch guy.

pauleau 1 year ago
@komr323
He is not? "really" Dutch.

hellooooo000 2 years ago
Liu Xiaobo tried to bring peace and humanity? to ALL his fellow country men/women. Why put him in prison?
Peace & prosperity for China! Long live LXB!

hongsediguo1985 2 years ago
大使笑的那叫一个尴尬,哈哈哈。。。。。。。
可爱的老外?

pakjai 2 years ago
This Indian presenter is a seperatist. He is full of free tibet and urghur subsribers. He obviously needs a life and eat some hindu cows or? something.

hellooooo000 2 years ago
COnfucious re-incarnated says "You have issues.? Many personal issues to work through"

pakjai 2 years ago
lol gay faggot presenter. I say free Assange and award him the nobel peace prize for telling the? truth! Liu xaobo should be sent to the west and the west can feed him ;)

fredlockful 2 years ago
PLease CCCP, don't cut him & use him for body parts as you do for other political prisoners. Please let? him go & let him be with his family.

Tsering Dorjee 2 years ago
Why Chinese can't have different opinions. Mr. Ambassador was uttering same stuffs that their PRC had about Mr. Liu. Sorry China, but we can't change the meaning of Human? rights....

MrSTAlc 2 years ago
The Dutch guy was very rude and kept on? interrupting the ambassador. He showed absolutely no respect. What a shame

hellooooo000 2 years ago
Do you know you're very slow in the mind? Don't answer that, I'll be? waiting a ilfetime:(

Hodamminh 2 years ago
This? is the nice way to show the world ,how ugly ,criminal Chinese communist
The man with flower you are smart the way you dit it
We love you . Fuck Ho Yin Tao ,Fuck chinese communist

ghalip1 2 years ago
poor shang?

Ka Wing Lo 2 years ago
Wat? een actie! super tof!!!!!

zhaozhe2010 2 years ago
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Congrats to whom? You fucking shit, the fucking embassy can represent all the Chinese people? ! Shut the fuck up, you? mother fucker!

zhaozhe2010 2 years ago
Congrats to whom? You fucking shit, the fucking embassy can represent all? the Chinese people? ! Shut the fuck up, you mother fucker!

yurihuski 2 years ago
this motherfucker is pissing the embassy off just want someone to watch him get into an arguement.? Dude this is not how you do the shit. Fuck this shit. I hate media people. Some people who really fight for human rights do not insult anyone whatever others beliefs are whether right or wrong.

hertz nehdol 2 years ago
what this chinese fuckers thinking to them selves by saying words like this to him.
he is iraq or nigga fact is he is a man for human rights........n love the peace. chinese are really? senseless ........long live china noble laureate...

nofreedomofspeech 2 years ago
Sweden and Alfred Nobel gave Norway this opportunity after? his death in 1896, during the union. I bet they are happy for that :)

TheRealChina 2 years ago
FREE LIU? XIAOBO !
FREE ALL TIBETAN PRISONER !

amuqc 2 years ago
You looks like a piece of crap man. Were you trying to embarrass the? ambassador? You are insane. If you believe the God, the god will punish you.
You said: you are presenting the dutch people. Who give you such a right? Look at you. You are not even a dutch. Are you from Iraq? I suggest you go to your bloody home and learn what the word "peace" means.

notswhiteley 1 year ago
Lol shutup you? swiss moron.

Nick Wang 2 years ago
LOL, this stupid? arba looking nigger claims that he represents dutch people,the ambassador is kinda retard.

Kalsang Norbu 2 years ago
Free? Liu Xiaboo! Shame China shame!

TheRealChina 2 years ago
YES SHAME ON CHINESE GOVERNMENT? !

asxholes 2 years ago
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@GWhittome Your challenge already proved that my response to his request served its purpose in every way. Hope? you put it into your pipe and smoke it before wandering? further away from your major concern --"human rights. Look at this so-called "human rights champion" whose behavior speaks volumes.

Qingshun Li 2 years ago
after the talking, at 4:03, the Ambassador? said in Chines, "who bring this guy here?"

match999 2 years ago
这是谁放他进来的? ? He said

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xiaokuhu 2 years ago
democracy,? freedom , human rights and Liu Xiaobo ! !

xiaokuhu 2 years ago
I totally understand all the? comments too !

sebastian3852 2 years ago
This prize given to Liu is ACTUALLY a great mistake, because Mr.Liu promoted the immediate change of the system, like breaking USSR apart, that will bring civil wars between the inland provincea (extreme poor who? still prefers communism) and the coastal provinces (rich who prefers capitalism) !

TheRealChina 2 years ago
FREE Liu? Xiaobo !

sebastian3852 2 years ago
now you all see, that they use Nobel Prize? as a political tool to control and manipulate the whole world!!

jin405 2 years ago
but I know your mind is manipulating by the communist party now,? congradulation!

sebastian3852 2 years ago
actually I don't like communism, they are slow moving system, full of laziness, red tape and corruption! But what can you do now for China? You can't just change it right away, you need time. You don't want China ends up like USSR - bankrupted in? one month,splitting up into many independent countries, civil wars, nuclear weapons leak out to black market, gangs, ethnic genocides, conflicts between races and religions, and then controlled by western bastards, DO YOU?

sebastian3852 2 years ago
Europe and US want China to change system as fast as? USSR, and then break the nation apart! fucking don't fall into the trap!!

sebastian3852 2 years ago
China is gradually doing a great job in the past 10 years, owning the US economy, market and debts! Improving the living standard? and human rights and laws, China needs time to get the economy up and the wealth up and the defence up first, and then China will turn into a new system thru time!!!

HumanRightsVideosT 1 year ago
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Human rights for Tibetans and Falun Gong are not getting better. The persecution of Falun Gong began in 1999. An independent report titled
"BLOODY HARVEST - Revised Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China"
found, "the source of? 41,500 transplants for the six-year period 2000 to 2005 is unexplained."
You can read the report at
organharvestinvestigation. net

sebastian3852 2 years ago
I agree China's biggest problem is corruption and overpowered government officials, but there is no corruption and beaucracy in Italy? Japan? S.Korea? and many so called European countries? Even the US government is? acting on the benefit of its large corporation!!

HumanRightsVideosT 1 year ago
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@ sebastian3852
Do you know about the Corruption Perceptions Index 2009 ?
NZ score 9.4 rank 1
Hong Kong score 8.2 rank 8
Japan score 7.7 rank?? 17=
United Kingdom 7.7 rank 17=
United States score 7.5 rank 19
China score 3.6 rank 79
I happen to live in NZ. Proportional voting and free media are very important to stop corruption.

sebastian3852 2 years ago
The World is the same! All systems are fucked up. What matters is? POWER, stronger your country, stronger your say!!

sebastian3852 2 years ago
The reason Americans? promote the idea of global warming is to reduce the developing countries to use up the world fuels before they(the americans) do.

sebastian3852 2 years ago
2007 they gave nobel prize to Al Gore for promoting the idea of Global? Warming, lol, it's -45 degree C in inner-mongolia right now! -75 in northern russia. Global Warming my ass. American scientists all knew we are heading to mini-Ice-age since the 1970s!

sebastian3852 2 years ago
now Obama and USA wants to attack North Korea! LOL. well done, Nobel Prize committee, for having? shit heads.

sebastian3852 2 years ago
Obama donated his nobel? prize money $250,000 to military related non-profit organization. See? Nobel Prize is a JOKE, a BIG JOKE!! LOL

suochao 2 years ago
Firstly, I don't care about this funny video. Coz the behavior? itself is just a trick, the important thing is the feedbacks. For this video 20% of the comments are negtive, 20% positive, and most are neutral. If either negtive or positive side was over 50% ,the war would come. if over 90%, human is in dangous to be extinct. So, WATCH OUT your behviors, plz. And as the audience, we'll try to keep balance our emotion. If we really want the PEACE.

SKSuperPower 2 years ago
do not buy chinese products? forget china

MrChinahero 2 years ago
Fuck? off mother fuker........

sebastian3852 2 years ago
there is no need to fuck your mother, when NK nuke and destroy SK, US will nuke and destroy NK, boom, no more Korea, lol, guess we have to go to LA? USA to see Koreans, ROFL.

sebastian3852 2 years ago
sorry, typo,? I meant there is no need fuck his mother. We will go to LA or history books to see their people.

taching125 2 years ago
"这是谁弄来的"?。。。。?

sebastian3852 2 years ago
Fucking stupid Dutch, he said "congraz for China, because your country won the Nobel Prize for PEACE!", LOL,? did he say to US embassy back in 2009 that "congraz for USA, because your country won the Nobel Prize for PEACE!" while USA war with Afghanistan and Iraq

VivaEcoCultBusiness 2 years ago
→ sebastian3852 ← This Creepy Red Faker is hiding own home? !! :))

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VivaEcoCultBusiness 2 years ago
Red China is NEUTRAL for Whaling in IWC, it means in near future your? red China which has prisoner for ELEVEN years for only IDEE Mr.Liu can begin Whaling. Whales have EIGHTY THREE species, some species are INCREASING.
Btw, Red Constitution's Chapter35 must guarantee Freedom of Speech and Publishing. Charter08 is NOT Publishing ???

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VivaEcoCultBusiness 2 years ago
Red China Fishermen OBVIOUSLY Hit and Rammed to Korean Navy in the Sea of Korea, how about for you RED in Hong? Kong?

SKSuperPower 2 years ago
chinese? shit

sebastian3852 2 years ago
The world is at war, and at the brink of Nuke WWIII, you are more worry about China human rights, lol, Western hypocrits, bring it on.
Stop buying China made? dream on, your ma ma has no money to afford non-China made products, lol! US owe China trillions? of dollar!! pay up man!!

VivaEcoCultBusiness 2 years ago
→ pyrioni ← How about? You RED is the? most Detested Nation?

VivaEcoCultBusiness 2 years ago
In Hong Kong Disney Land, Rudest Chinese ENTER Waiting Lines from side. In ShangHai Expo, Egoistic Chinese Hit and Kicked EACH OTHER at front of foreign cameras to get? reservation tickets, Any Objections ?? :))

VivaEcoCultBusiness 2 years ago
>while not INVADING other countries, haha. ← Remember, Hong Kong was UK's territory TILL end of? 1990s .....
It is why, A LITTLE BIT(?) freedom :))

SKSuperPower 2 years ago
china deserves this shup? up

SKSuperPower 2 years ago
they touch our waters shup up south korea should? attack china

sebastian3852 2 years ago
fuck off SK, worry more about your NK brothers who will come slaughter you with nukes. meanwhile the Dutch? are more worry about China, ROFL.

SKSuperPower 2 years ago
you american dirty you do not know? anything

CWTW 2 years ago
well i cant say anything for the Chinese guy, but the truth? that the dutch guy kept on interrupting him is kind of rude? I didn't see the Chinese guy interrupting at all
we all know the true meaning of the so called "Nobel Prize" is no longer there anymore, but rather became a weapon for political purpose.
and China is a huge country, the west invaded, destroyed China in the past 300 years, not to mention about the internal warfare all the time
Is it really too much to ask for more time?

sebastian3852 2 years ago
exactly, the so called freedom lovers western Europeans, USA and Brittain invaded China in the past 300 years, sending Priests into China to gather information and then open China's market for selling OPIUM poisoning? their people in exchange for hugh profit, when China official Lin burned the fucking OPIUM, UK, USA and other 6 European countries invaded China and killing millions. This is their so call democracy and freedom and human rights!!!! Check history!

sebastian3852 2 years ago
USA, UK, Europe? wants to destroy China authority, and start civil wars, then turn their people against each other, then they will invade China and China's resources again!! This happened in the past and will happen again! This is their truth political purpose.

sebastian3852 2 years ago
do you know why USA so eagerly want to free Tibet? because Tiber has China's 1/4 of the natural resources, and Tibet has world's largest Uranium mine! USA wants its resource? so desperately, USA never do anything that is profitless in history!!

arunachalsingh 2 years ago
WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THIS VIDEO ON THE HUMAN? RIGHTS OF THE CHINESE EMBASSY OFFICIAL WHO LET THE TEAM OF HUMAN RIGHTS SUPPORTERS IN

Seedique Bale 2 years ago
Cheers!?

sebastian3852 2 years ago
China government is trying to hold the whole country together and feed its people and maintain it by high Tax. If Chinese is without high level of control and gradual open market, China will split into many parts and wars - it? happened before and happened in Eastern Europe!! And there are over 55 races and tribes in China, very dangerous to turn into ethnic conflicts and wars. Have mercy at the 1.4 billion people and understand!

sebastian3852 2 years ago
Every country is different, you can't just force China to be as open as the system of western world at this moment! You know how many hungry people in China? 10s millions, and 100s millions are still peasants without any education, only 100 millions are wealthy along the coast cities, that's? 1/14 of the population!

kleinverzet 2 years ago
China is? hungry because of communism, not despite of it.

sebastian3852 2 years ago
Everything this Dutchman said is trying to provoke and make the Chinese embassidor and Chinese embarrassed. No funny at all. Nobel Peace Prize lost its true purposes, I mean look at 2009 Nobel prize for instance, it was given to Warmonger country's prez Obama, what did Obama do to deserve the prize? Americans are now provoking the China and North Korea. Many People are dying and working? hard to maintain world peace and save lives, but got nothing, this prize is more like a politics now!!!

wukidatheart 2 years ago
The irony is that this dutch guy was only admitted to the? embassy because he looks Caucasian. Guaranteed his excellence would never lower himself to meet a regular Chinese citizen who he and his party bosses contemptuously call weed grass and ants to be trampled at will. Kudos youtube for exposing the hideous face behind the mask of fake smile and politeness.

wukidatheart 2 years ago
4:05 His excellence turned his back appearing livid and yelled "Who (the fuck) let let this guy in?" Heads will roll next, yeah you betcha!? I bet he was praying that Beijing would be happy with his unmistakenly loyal adherence to party line. What a hypocrit! While he enjoys the freedom and lifestyle offered by what would be world's least corrupt government on earth, he wasn't even feeling any shame at blowing.

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hippo314 2 years ago
This video shows? me how fake and brutal regarding those western media, they don't respect Chinese ambassador that how could them respect ordinary Chinese people? thank god that I still can say somethings, if China been controlled by western power, I am so sure western politician will kill more Chinese people than Communist, Iraq and wikileads is the good sample, Killing people who wants freedom, Arresting people who wants to show the truth, It is the truth face of western politician's democracy.

hippo314 2 years ago
That Dutchman is? a genius? or Real dumb! I think he is real dumb, Chinese people hates hypocrites, if u don't like anything just speak out, no need to use flower for covering his hostile action. how could I accept this kind of faking democracy.human right ! As we can see, this Dutchman tried to stop and interrupt Chinese ambassador speaking by his brutal action, where is the free speech of human rights? did u see ambassador interrupt this guy speech when he was asking the question? ?

kingstonshow 2 years ago
That Dutchman is a genius.?

arunachalsingh 2 years ago
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VIEWING THIS VIDEO IS A VERY SATISFYING EXPERIENCE , IT MAKES GREAT CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS HIGHLIGHTING HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS OF CHINESE PEOPLE? IN GENERAL AND TIBETANS IN PARTICULAR - GREAT

LEI PAN 2 years ago
Stop those craps and look at Mr. Nobel's? will, the prize should be given to people who "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses"...who should be awarded? Mr. Obama? this prize is a joke.

hellooooo000 2 years ago
That's a really bad strawman? argument you raise. Did you cheat with all those thumbs up? I assume so.

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
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@MrChinahero You registered youtube account in Holland. Maybe you? are also a member of Chinese Communist's Embassy. Please identify youself, are you the his excellency Mr. Zhang Jun, or the gate man who let the dutch man in? LOL...

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes
Mr. Zhang said the Chinese government will promote human rights for all Chinese people. The dutch man asked :"including Mr. Liu?" Mr.Zhang still not answer the question, because he dare not answer, if he said yes, sure he will be against Chinese government, If he said no, he can just not explain why Mr. Liu is still in prison, and he will have to deny the freedom? and human right is not for all the Chinese. What a contradiction! He would be f*ked both ways. So "R u trying 2222"is his last words..

asxholes 2 years ago
Of course, LXB's rights are well protected just as much as any prisoner all over the world, and he enjoys as much freedom as any law-breaker does in the US. If LXB were released right now, his life could be jeopardized, 'cause it's reported that millions of people wanted him dead as he plotted to? break up China and subject it to colonial rule for 300 years.

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
@janezbasher , wow, why you write English if you knew Chinese so well? Talking about respect for women. Communists knew? better than me. Madam Zhang Zhixin spoke out what in her mind., and what did she got from commies? Commies cut her throat, and then? torture her to death!!

janezbasher 2 years ago
Do you mean to tell me that because? Zhang Zhixin was tortured to death, you don't? have to show respect to any woman that comes from China? Do you mean to say that because commies don't respect Zhang Zhixin, you can abuse any woman who disagrees with you? What logic?! That's why I said you are no better than any human-rights abuser. Now let me teach you some respect for women: if you are sincere in promoting democracy and human rights, start from youself, n set a good example!

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VIETNAMSAIGON75 2 years ago
Top 10 Funniest Videos?

wukidatheart 2 years ago
3:26 "Are? you trying to, to, to make a qurrel with me?" LOL

willwong1234 2 years ago
Article 35 of the 1982 State Constitution of the People's Republic of China proclaims that citizens of the People's Republic of China are guaranteed freedom of speech, of? the press, of assembly, of association, of procession, and of demonstration. Now, isn't that exactly what Liu Xiaobo has done but is nevertheless charged and convicted with? So does it mean the constitution and the "Rule of Law" are there just for show and the "court" is doing everything that contradicts the constitution?

sayram70 2 years ago
Bravo? !!! der mann hat die chinesen richtig gefickt.

MrChinahero 2 years ago
China is so powerful in the world, all the western counties are scare of China nowadays. They don't wanna China getting more and more stronger. So? the western medias including the Nobel Peace committee have been used as a tool to stop China. The problem is that there are so many damn people in the western counties, they believe everything from the TV. They won't wake up until one day China knock their head and kick their ass.

luyefar 2 years ago
I couldn't believe you sign up this account only for reply this? video. Your fear of China's Communist Party has never been more clear.

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MrChinahero 2 years ago
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I love China because my fear of China's Communist Party? That means you western countries should love terrorist because your fear of suicide bomb... Please use? your fuckiiing brain before you say something.?

MrChinahero 2 years ago
I love China because? my fear of China's Communist Party? That means you western countries should love terrorist because your fear of suicide bomb... Please use your fuckiiing brain before you say something.?

hgkk2 2 years ago
You are talking about Hitler , what is? his result, Wumao

hgkk2 2 years ago
You are? talking about Hitler , what is his result, Wumao

Mingkai Xie 2 years ago
So, next Namaz (Eid-ul-Fitr), Mr Sadeghi going to show up at the Iranian embassy to pull a similar stunt on, say, the? Ahmadinejads nuclear programme, or the human rights situation in Iran? Quiz the Turkish ambassador on the Alevi or the Kurds? Lecture the Saudi ambassador on womens rights? Berate Hamas on its public antisemitism? No? Then this is just a cheap shot.
As far as the "interview" goes: proper preparation prevents piss poor performance.

gun superbig 2 years ago
hahahaha?

thwchan 2 years ago
Thank you very much Dikla!! I joined the protests outside the Chinese? embassy here in Oslo and of course we couldn't get anywhere near. Should learn from your polite and friendly approach next time.

ZHANG Jing 2 years ago
polite? I? don't think so. That's typical hypocritical western performance. All he wants to do is to provoke.

Sa Czech 2 years ago
Cute!? :DDD

Pushkin62 2 years ago
Indeed the Chinese ambassador handled the situation well, although I could sense that he was? increasingly feeling uneasy. He almost lost his cool when he said: `Are you trying to quarrel with me?'

sw911iz112 2 years ago
While I feel this is somewhat funny I also feel that you are disrespecting the fellow. And he treated you very well and tried to answer your questions in a good manner. You interrupted him and was quite impolite.? And also who selected you to be the representative of Dutch people?

LEI PAN 2 years ago
can't? agree more

Sultan Uyghur 2 years ago
Han Chinese Are Nothing But Stupid Ugly Terrorists Dirty? Filthy Cretures

daveyeung 2 years ago
Take that! You piece of shit CCP!?

freesonyu 2 years ago
cool man! Dutch? is good!

koolakalle 2 years ago
NUKE EM!?

lovelyitem 2 years ago
Very cool and Chinese Communist party should feel shame at the time, Appreciates for your support?

Tenzin jor 2 years ago
Chinese government gona be fucked very? soon if they keeps going like that .

yizhiking 2 years ago
劉曉波拿出中共的老把戯反對中華民國,必須戳破他的光環?

Zir093sandby 2 years ago
looks like china got a nice embassy? atleast

Moses Chong 2 years ago
共匪。。。?

kickong 2 years ago
shame on the big beard guy?

Mixze 2 years ago
Shame on the Chines Goverment...?

MrDudemeister123 2 years ago
Panlei616 and devilsoe, first of all the nobel peace prize is handed out by norway. Norway has human rights, freedom of speech ect, norway does not kill their own citizens or any other race. China doesn't even have freedom of speech so yeah, perhaps? you SHOULD be listening instead of being stubborn and pretend to be proud over your shitty country.

LEI PAN 2 years ago
u guys have double standard, one for yourself and? one for us.

MAQWERTO 2 years ago
He doesnt look too happy? about the prize lol ;D

rickardny 2 years ago
HAha this? is awesome!

Ritzdiamond 2 years ago
哈哈哈哈,welldone!bravo!thx? for the flowers!look the embassador's face! 中国这些当官的一个个都很傻b。By the way,fuck the chinese government.

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LEI PAN 2 years ago
as a Chinese people, my opinion is we are fed up with all the fucked up western values and criteria that? u guys try to let us believe and use. why should we follow your way? 中国人的事情自己解决,何必让外人说三道四,中共是不好,但是绝-对轮不到鬼佬来指手划脚。

rickardny 2 years ago
Because our? way doesn't hurt our citizen.

kickong 2 years ago
your way doesn't hurt your citizens, but hurt citizens of other country.
Look at what US has been doing in? Iraq?

rickardny 2 years ago
That's the US, I live in Sweden, so I will compare China with my own? country.

kickong 2 years ago
Your country is nowhere comparable with China.
Look? at any countries in the world with population > 200million.

rickardny 2 years ago
Sorry to say this, but everything can be compared with anything.?

ForgtheFrog 2 years ago
Yeah why should you treat people with respect, why should you respect their rights? as human beings... Wow...

HeronOfHeaven 2 years ago
總是拿種族和義和團思想來作盾牌護主,又要故作中立?

georgehua09 2 years ago
Fully agree with you! Look at those clowns who claimed to repect freedom of speech and human rights. Do they have any respect for the soreign rights of a soreign State? Do they have any respect for different opinions?? Do they have any respect for your freedom of speech? They are ordering you to shut up and listen to their raving as if you only have the right to listen. What a hyporite the Norwagian Nobel Committee and its supporters are?!

kukhufvud 2 years ago
You should execute poor people that steal without an fair trial because the government doesn't? care about them and also censor the internet??? Well If you are so brainwashed you can live with that..Then enjoy that "freedom" and don't mind the "western values".

hgkk2 2 years ago
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most Chinese people are? coward like you

devilsoe 2 years ago
European has very much human rights. Some Europe support? USA for killing other races, war kill many civillians they called it bad guys. they critisize china China is Evil, USA is double Evil, Some Europe is two Faced Evil.

devilsoe 2 years ago
China has no human rights. The goverment kill tibetan, jail Nobal Peace Price agaist humanity wills. china kill own race.
USA has human rights. According to wikileaks us army kill journalist without investigate just shoot them down until they dead. crush with tank on the dead bodies. wow amazing. us kill red indians, ki...ll black people and make them slaves. us kill others races. us complain? china has no human rights.

AssianNoXAss 2 years ago
Fucking? win.

Hugo Liao 2 years ago
its a mockery? man....

magefarad 2 years ago
uhm i am dutch dude , and why did i emberessed all the? dutch
the man with the beard is just trying to be funny , and he is
dont blame me or him for embaressing.

Hugo Liao 2 years ago
LOL i am sorry, i reply to a wrong comment,? i deleted that one already.

Hugo Liao 2 years ago
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you embarrassed the Dutch people....?

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
@janezbasher , wow, why you write English if you knew Chinese so well? Talking about respect for women.? Communists knew better than me. Madam Zhang Zhixin spoke out what in her mind., and what did she got from commies? Commies cut her throat, and then torture her to death!!

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janezbasher 2 years ago
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Do you mean to tell me that because Zhang Zhixin was tortured to death, you don't have to show respect to any woman that comes from China? Do you mean to say that because commies don't respect Zhang Zhixin, you can abuse any woman who disagrees with you? What logic?! That's why I said you are? no better than any human-rights abuser. Now let me teach you some respect for women: if you are sincere in promoting democracy and human rights, start from youself, n set a good example!

chiienergy 2 years ago
if u want to make some? fun of it ATLEAST bring a real Dutch intervieuwer then some fcking terrorist looking arab fag guy

chiienergy 2 years ago
wtf? this is china bussiness. why do other countrys care so much? dont they have more things to do since the economy is so bad right now

neverhoodyn 2 years ago
Chinese people on youtube, what? is your opinion on this?

wangyue9014 2 years ago
fuck the GFW....it spend me 1h to? watch the video...

svedz 2 years ago
i have afeeling that this interviewer is trying to create tension between the west? and china.. lol.

thup100 2 years ago
hahahahahahha,its a bit too early to? say thank you very much;))

jimigao 2 years ago
笑抽?

Tibetan boy 2 years ago
???????????????????????????? ? ??????????????????????????????-????????????

tharagonn 2 years ago
So.. wtf did you say? I mean, I can't understand a sentence. Is this? how Dutch people are educated? Not even being able to write a sound English sentence?
You sound like an ignorant, retarded community of farmers to me..

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
@alvincyt
别跟那个love09kiwi讨论了,40岁的女人提前进入更年-期了:-)。她真那么爱国还不如去lovePanda,去lov-e什么 kiwi啊??

janezbasher 2 years ago
Gross! Learn some respect for women, okay? Your attitude towards women shows you know nothing about human rights. You are the gross type of human-rights abuser. I'd be ashamed? of your support if I were the Nobel Committee.

Luc He 2 years ago
How stupid the ambassador is!?

TheRealChina 2 years ago
FREE Liu Xiaobo !
SAVE TIBET FROM CHINA !
SAVE CHINA FROM? Chinese communist Government !

Fan Zhang 2 years ago
he didn't tease him enough :)?

nawanglobsang 2 years ago
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@Keitai5263Yes you are right. Invisible bomb but very effective and hits the purpose of it's target on the long run. And that too with the power of non-violent and without any astronomical defense's cost.
Peace to over 1 billion Chinese! Peace to? 6 million suppressed Tibetans and peace to all.

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nawanglobsang 2 years ago
Why is Mr Liu Xiaobo is in prison if freedom of speech is possible only in peaceful China.
Ofcourse if reporters and journalist act voilently then it is the embassy staffs' job to defend themselves.
Otherwise for just questioning or? interrogating they are not going to shoot you or wreck your camera unless they (americans/marines) are lunatics.

TheOBOM 2 years ago
Good show,? shove it down their throats! Maybe someday they learn to respect other people, before they get to be payed respect themselves...the Chinese, I mean.

tharagonn 2 years ago
Lol,? fucking Arab trying to teach Chinks how to treat people? HAHAHAHA

tsdoesds 2 years ago
+1?

alvincyt 2 years ago
換個角度看, 張大使的談吐和風度, 總算比那個甚麼姜瑜要好得多, 外交部發言人應讓他來當.?

catbakkorrel 2 years ago
they only gave him that price to bring china in discredit... nobel peace prize? is bullshit.. they give it to whoever they want.

alvincyt 2 years ago
Yeah, so did your great CCP! They can also give a peace prize to anybody they want, and they have done it, they awarded Lian Zhan the "Confucious Peace Prize". The only difference is, LXB's relatives and friends are being confined from travelling aboard to receive the Nobel Prize, while at the same time LZ refused to receive the Confucious Prize,? and such remarkable difference tells the fact that which one is the bullshit.

pokermaniac0978 2 years ago
THis bald headed guy had the nerve to come in to Chinese Embassy try to congratulate Chinese people when his intention was to criticize China While these scumbag West forget to get a mirror and look at themself first. We all know the West bloodthirst for world domination..as China is the only nation stopping the west? from doing so...This is why the west meddling and bribing Chinese people to go against there own motherland...LOL

alvincyt 2 years ago
You? know who took most Chinese lives in past 2 centuries? The West?

bryanhaakman 2 years ago
haha fantastisch?

adapaevolved 2 years ago
Pathetic?

chiienergy 2 years ago
if i was a security guy at the door,? i will not let that guy go in because he looks more like a terrorist than someone from the netherlands

alloshy80 2 years ago
hahahahahaha? u r right hahahahaha

alvincyt 2 years ago
I agree, so they have? nobody else to blame.

0nn3 2 years ago
pwned?

GVDkomop 2 years ago
China does deserve the Nobelprice? of peace, the Country never attacked other countries like the Americans

kortsluiting86 2 years ago
china attacked tibet, and a tukish speaking country to the north of tibet, they attacked? korea during the korean war. so they are not peasefull at all

GVDkomop 2 years ago
Hey we spreken nu over de tegenwoordige tijd, ik ga toch ook niet spreken over de imperialistische mogendheden van de vorige eeuw die zijn weg baande in allerlei continenten op zoek naar nieuwe kolonies. China is peaceful if you are comparing it with? other countries. Tibet and Xinjiang are solid at the moment, disagreement is everywhere.. Can you tell me in what way China have attacked Tibet and Xinjiang? Iraque is getting attacked at the moment, focus on that..

alvincyt 2 years ago
Do you regard? Manchuria and Mongolia a part of China in her history?

GVDkomop 2 years ago
China has a very long history, Manchurian en Mongolian have dominated China as country in the past, but that is why China is so special. The history of China has a lot of diversity in people?

Waldheri 2 years ago
- that? was the whole point of the video.

PasqualeYT1 2 years ago
You don't understand? sarcasm, do you....

MrJulianBoer 2 years ago
I totally understand all the comments on this video! xD?

SloterMFmeyer 2 years ago
I am very? pride for chinese people.

sonam426 2 years ago
you r hero. you r the world's hero. Thank a lot. Good luck for your whole life. Good? person creats good. I wish world need more people as you.

bascompany14 2 years ago
awesome video!!? great interview!

BudoRuben 2 years ago
hahahaha very well done!! 1:20 till 1:28 sounds? funny!

doezert1 2 years ago
the? interviewer is brilliant

xiaokuhu 2 years ago
:) thanks ! thanks? for you flower , best wishes to you !

magefarad 2 years ago
for? some people, this is sarcastic.

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Frank de Roos 2 years ago
so they give a country like china that prize. no offence i love china? but in china many people are being pressured there by the government. there is still much poverty and it isnt a very justicefull system. sorry but this prize should go to a country who is absolutely peaceloving and china is worldpower and also has his nukes on standby.

magefarad 2 years ago
? the dude is beeing sarcastic against them xD

PHeMoX 2 years ago
So just because there's no idealistic? version of a Western democracy (that doesn't even exist in the West itself), it's an injust and incorrect political system??
I'm actually surprised a system like they currently have works so well with over one billion people. Sure there is poverty, but with those amounts of people, it would be easy to overthrow a government through a mass riot. Most likely why that Nobel Prize winner is behind bars in the first place....

sjoperdje 2 years ago
This is sarcastic, man! You never? watch the news or what! HaHAhahaha.

tsamzen 2 years ago
Great job! Man! I also want to? convey my congrates to Chinese brother Liu Xiaobo for winning 2010 Nobel Peace Prize.

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NebulaOrbit 2 years ago
有人可以请让汉语关上大谈那个人吗?它非常讨厌和不安。乌尔不冷-静,即使你知道如何说汉语。中文是其他所有的语言相同。
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Jostipi 2 years ago
Freedom? ftw

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ghroemf 2 years ago
This dutch guy, just like the chinese governement,? doen't have the right to speak for the people of a whole country. Also this "congratulations" (and the nobel peace price 2010) is kind of childish...

he4dsh0t3 2 years ago
Probrem ??

Hugo Liao 2 years ago
My dear friend on youtube, you know nothing about china except china's economic growth. just becuz we dont have democracy, so a lot chinese people have to worry about will their house even exist tomorrow or already expropriate by a government which excess jurisdiction but the citizens cant do anything to protect their basic human right.
its horrible when a thing? that something suppose represent justice no more reliable and become a gang

Hugo Liao 2 years ago
as a chinese and lived in china also got education in china, i think i have the authority to comment
i totaly agree wat Mr Jagland said on the、 ceremony, "Liu has exercised his civil rights. He has done nothing? wrong. "

Afghankhan 2 years ago
I am not pro China but let 's give NOBLE Price? 2011 to Julian Assange. I want ot see the reaction of the US

alvincyt 2 years ago
皇帝没资格号召人民爱国
猫坛上有很多爱国FF。他们有这样可笑的言论:本国皇帝统治你,-你需要服从和忍受,被本国皇帝奴役不是丢人的事情。内政嘛。但是-,外国人要打 击奴役你的皇帝,要想取代本国皇帝奴役你,你就必须-反抗,这叫爱国。暴力只能对外不能对内。真是奇谈怪论。你既然有-勇气牺牲自己的性命为保护 奴役你的皇帝而战,你为什么没有勇气先-把奴役你的皇帝推翻?自己同胞间都可以互相奴役,又为什么要在意-奴役你的人的国籍呢?被同民族的强奸叫 幸福,被外民族的强奸才叫-耻辱?都是强奸,前者就让你飘飘欲仙,后者就叫你痛不欲生?
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alvincyt 2 years ago
真正有骨气的人,是不容许任何人奴役的,管他是同胞还是异族,真-正爱当奴才的人,也不应当在乎谁奴役他。所以,对那些爱本国皇帝-,却抗击异族 侵略的人,我非常不理解。他们怎么那样古怪可笑?看-那个奋勇抗清的史可法,不顾百姓的性命,为了他的皇帝而以卵击石-,却不知道在外族入侵前带 领百姓对那些贪官污吏进行斗争。地主们-掠夺农民的时候,他怎么不义愤填膺呢?他是为百姓而战还是为皇帝-而战?他爱皇帝是他自己的事情,为什么 要逼着大家和他一起爱那个-荒淫无道的掠夺大家的WBD? 如果领着大家为自由而战,我可以理解。但是为皇帝而战,为奴役自-己的人而战,我无法理解。
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alvincyt 2 years ago
爱国FF最喜欢指责别人:只顾自己利益,出卖民族利益,心中只有-家,没有国。不知道是他们的智商还是他们的良心,让他们竟然看不-到这样的事 实:只顾个人利益的是皇帝,最出卖民族利益的也是皇帝-,心中只有他家的是皇帝,不知道国是什么概念的还是这个该死的皇-帝。他不自私,怎天下美 色珍宝都要归他所有?他心中有民族,怎么-舍得把同胞的自由尊严剥夺得一干二净?他做什么不都是为了他的家-天下吗?他如果有国家的概念,怎么不 在全国选真正的能人来继承皇-位而只知道把皇位传给他自己的儿子呢?不管这个儿子是痴呆还是变-态?他如此自私霸道,他心中有什么民族和国家?他 为了自己的权力-玩弄政治阴谋,怎么有还脸说是为了天下万民操劳造福?为天下万民-操劳,怎么不把自己那奢侈的生活水准降低点,怎么不免去人民的 税-赋徭役呢?怎么不把他家后宫中的妃子宫女都放出来让她们自由嫁人-呢?明明是为了他家代代相传的私业,却要所有的人感激他的皇恩浩-荡,无耻 已经成了他的习惯了。
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alvincyt 2 years ago
就是这样一个靠民脂民膏供养着骄奢淫逸着的魔鬼,平时不肯给人民-一点点尊严和自由,不肯对人民有一丝一毫的尊重,都不许人民把膝-盖伸直,都不 允许人民看他的脸庞,却好意思在自己把朝政糟蹋得乌-烟瘴气招引外敌的时候,号召人民为他而战?什么国家用人之际,什-么是你报恩之时,什么民族 危急关头,什么匹夫有责,这个时候他忽-然承认大家是人了,有使用暴力的权力了。他是心疼人民吗?? 他是在乎国家吗?他是为了民族吗?狗屁。他是为了他家的私业。他-骗人民给他卖着命,自己却在走狗的保护下躲到最安全的地方去。最-最不要脸的是,只要入 侵者承诺保证他的权力,他就可以割地赔款,-杀同胞取悦侵略者。比如杀岳飞的那个昏君,比如镇压义和团的慈禧-。他们是最大的民族败类,是最可耻 的卖国贼。偏偏,爱国FF们却-不敢或者不愿指责这些魔鬼,只敢指责拒绝为皇帝而卖命的人。本末-倒置,混淆是非,是FF们的特长和品格。

alvincyt 2 years ago
皇帝有资格号召人民爱国吗? 显然他毫无资格。把人民的血汗吸食得干干净净,把道德人心糟蹋得-丑陋无比,用个人的利益看凌辱着同胞的尊严,他有什么资格让别人-为他造的孽来支付代 价?异族侵略前,人民享受到他享受的权利了吗-?那么异族入侵的时候,人民有什么义务替他战斗?谁获益谁出力,-这才是公平的。荣华富贵人民无 份,流血卖命倒人人有责?怎么可以-如此荒唐?
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alvincyt 2 years ago
所以,当皇帝奴役下的民族被入侵的时候,最该冲锋陷阵的是皇帝,-然后是那些吃皇帝俸禄的贪官污吏。至于平时就被奴役的人民,千万-不要听他们的 煽动,不要替他们卖命,反正谁嬴了都不会把你当人看-的。不如看他们厮杀,解平时的郁闷。如果碰上外来的力量只是针对-皇帝,不是来奴役人民的, 那就更别犯傻了,就反戈一击,让皇帝死-的更快更彻底吧。皇帝死了,人民才能解放。不管是自己解放还是被-外来力量解放,都是光荣。不管被外族还 是本民族强盗奴役,都是屈-辱。只是要记住:别再互相奴役了,从此互相尊重,平等相处就对得-起自己的民族了。
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love09kiwi 2 years ago
@alvincyt
突然发现您老人家懂中文.而且一天的大部分时间都在这里发表着对-中国前几千年奴隶社会和封建社会的不满.您老人家醒醒吧,现在中-国人已经当家 作主了.当然也不排除有人给你提供经费,让您老人家-能够继续当一个穿越的摩登原始人.
此外,关于老毛的言论,在蒋介石政府眼里,他自然应该是上断头台-的,可以他们无能,没抓住他.这就好比美国的乔治华盛顿那帮人在-当时的英国政 府眼里是叛徒一样.至于刘晓波,我真不觉得他和前面-提到的这些伟人能够相提并论.
真是难为您老人家在这里不遗余力地混淆是非黑白了.佩服佩服,小-女子在此像您鞠躬?

alvincyt 2 years ago
1. 既然中國人當家作主, 為何中國還沒有收回釣魚台? 不止沒有收回,? 還要限制公民前往保釣? 韓國就只幾千萬人口, 不是把獨島收回了嗎? 既然中國人當家作主, 為何一個沒有被通緝沒有被起訴的公民, 會被禁制出國? 既然中國人當家作主, 為何中共建國後, 雙手奉送給俄國人的領土, 面積會是台灣的上百倍?
2. 老毛在蔣政府眼裡應該上斷頭台, 那麼在一個普通的中國公民眼裡又如何?

love09kiwi 2 years ago
最后一次回应.我比较忙,没有太多闲功夫在网上灌水.? 我并不是任何人的奴才,我是自己的主人,请不要用你的处境对我进-行类比.
首先,你一口一个主子奴才的,请问你是谁的奴才,谁是你的主子,-你是在舔谁的屁眼?
其二,纵观你的发言,评语如下: 逻辑混乱,主次不分,胡搅蛮缠;
其三,当家做主是一回事,钓鱼岛是另外一回事,台湾,中国终会收-回.韩日的独岛(又名竹岛)迄今为止都是公说公有理,婆说婆有理-.

alvincyt 2 years ago
再問你,? 今天你就回到你主子那裡去, 不翻牆的話, 他會讓你上youtube嗎? 會讓你在此發表舔他屁眼的言論嗎?

alvincyt 2 years ago
既然口口聲聲中國人當家作主, 那何不讓13億主人來個公投或全民普查, 看看大部份中國人如何評價劉曉波?? 你主子敢麼?

alvincyt 2 years ago
可憐的奴才, 被主子洗腦的地步, 現在連以古諷今的文章也讀不懂了. 既然如此, 我也只好跟你說說現在的中國人了.
"中国的互联网是充分开放的,同时中国政府也要依法管理网络。至-于能看什么,不能看什么,能看的就看,不能看的就别看。" 這就是你主子說的, 你的主子不讓公民看youtube, 這就是現今所謂當家作主的大部份中國人的遭遇. 既然中國人就配這程度的當家作主, 你作為奴才的為何就這麼忤逆, 主子不讓你看你就跑到外國看呢?? 這不就是託庇洋鬼子, 給你主子丟臉麼?

emretje12 2 years ago
Please what the fuck? are you saying?

alvincyt 2 years ago
Facts, though such facts are uncomfortable and sometimes embarrassing to some jerks and flunkies.?

emretje12 2 years ago
How can you typ in Chinese LOL??

alvincyt 2 years ago
Of course I? can type in my native language.

luyefar 2 years ago
顶你?

Hugo Liao 2 years ago
刘晓波的确不能跟那些伟人相提并论,甚至可能他还没够资格拿诺贝-尔奖
但是就像刘霞所说,这个奖不是颁给刘晓波一个人,而是给中国所有-的民主人士
这可以算是国际社会对他们的支持
另外现在大多数中国人都没有当家做主的权利。?

MrSombody2 2 years ago
the whole? chinese parliament voted dislike against this movie( and democracy)

TOTG31 2 years ago
FUCK THE? NOBEL PRICE!!!

ETAmsterdam 2 years ago
Well-done, hopefully they will? treat their political activists with more dignity in the future

zzeng326 2 years ago
Dutch is? asshole

MrHeroiz 2 years ago
Dutch is asshole? ur an asshole instead calling a whole country a asshole.?

PandoraMakanim 2 years ago
Bahram Sadeghi
man? of the year 2010... you are done it very well

WillonFire87 2 years ago
I think it's beyond idiotic behaviour what this supposed grown man is portraying. It's a? childish mockary and you can see the chinese government official reacting as graceful as he can to this 'may he poop on my knee' wise ass ;)

sammythangerules 2 years ago
Trol much? It's? not like this guy put mr. Liu in prison

break1break 2 years ago
XD?

fa204869 2 years ago
XDD?

hellooooo000 2 years ago
Dutch Borat? pwnd ignorant Chinese govt! xD xD

JXjohn 2 years ago
Nobel? peace price is for promoting peace around world, between races, and preventing and stopping wars among nations.

liuqingyi 2 years ago
So... had this guy been to China?
I guess not.
My advice for him is to live in China for years, see what's happening in China and ask many common Chinese what they think.
At least, I agree the? ambassador's some words. We don't need others to tell us what to do.
Sorry for my poor English.

alvincyt 2 years ago
Why don't you ask the Chinese govt to carry out a referandum and see what the Chinese majority think? Are they dare to be told by their own? citizens what to do?

DCMaarten 2 years ago
to? mutch comies in the comments free china free Lui Xiaobo

MrSonicmodel 2 years ago
There are two groups of people, comie and not comie. Also they are devided into for C-gov and anti C-gov. How do you know those who support C-gov's decisions are comies? Show me your evidence, not? your impression. Too much irrational people in the comments.

so1ange 2 years ago
the Taoist model allows for fluctuations of yin and yang. Neither Taoism nor Confucianism would have allowed for communism. Reiterate your argument, you are being as irrational as your government, which right now is obviously seeking another kind? of 'ism' it begins with a big 'C'.

stratdvd 2 years ago
I'm Dutch myself and? I find this funny. It's obvious he's ridiculing the Chinese state with those flowers.

TheTymera 2 years ago
This guy did not give those flowers on behalf of the dutch people. Fuck him. I am? ashamed that he behaved this way in an embassy. :c

RetardTE 2 years ago
Stuur dan iemand die normaal? engels kan.

coffee0tea 2 years ago
Nederland.....................-....?

coffee0tea 2 years ago
People who don't know anything about China? cannot see the truth of all those fake stories. They just simply believe in what they received from the local TV and radio. Some of those information could be true, which have been re-organized; some are even distorted. Before saying anything bad, please experience real China by yourself.

alvincyt 2 years ago
So what sort of "real China" would confine? all innocent relatives and friends of Liu from travelling aboard?

twchannel 2 years ago
FUCK CHINA!!!!!!!?

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supportiraqnow 2 years ago
这个视频太棒了,什么大使?? 就是个笑柄!张军大使利用共和国纳税人的钱在36岁到英国学了两-年国际法,水平没有见涨嘛!这样的人居然还曾是唐家璇的智囊,难-怪中国的外交一塌糊 涂,还搞不过老和尚呢!!

merdekaataumati1949 2 years ago
64天安門?

wuyun2004 2 years ago
你妈了逼5毛狗!?

ivorychau 2 years ago
◆崇? 洋 媚 外 ◆ 卑 賤 本 性◆
對香港記者 ◆ 又打又摑!
見倒鬼佬 ◆ 就鳩都縮!

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xib 2 years ago
The ambasador had this look of "Wuuudddd is dis? I raff I ruse???"? the whole time XD

ReiToei83 2 years ago
The poor English of pro-Chinese comments in? here is almost as funny as Sadeghi's English. Almost. Other then that, delicious ownage. Amateuristic diplomacy FTW.

asxholes 2 years ago
As far as I can see, nobody's English can be poorer than yours right under this clip. You're so cheeky! I'd feel ashamed of you if I were an? anti-Chinese scum.

ReiToei83 2 years ago
Well then, point out the poor parts. Be my guest :). 'U are trying to, to to, make? quarrel with me?' :D

shibownbown 2 years ago
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"Gainax doesn't afraid? of anything. They are pretty cool guys."
Your excellent? English clearly does not make people laugh.....

asxholes 2 years ago
Asking for? free English lessons? Say "other thAn" instead of "other then" next time, and "amateurish" is shorter and therefore better than "amateuristic." Please keep it in mind.

G Whittome 2 years ago
: the issue here is human rights, not an English lesson. Why? don't you discuss more essential issues?

asxholes 2 years ago
If you had read all the messages carefully with a little respect for others' human rights, you'd have known my position well enough. That? specific answer was directed to a specific request for an English lesson. I guess he had the right to seek my answer and I had the right to give him the answer he sought. These rights are to be respected if you are indeed serious about human rights. Of course, you had the right to pose that question as well. Hope I answered your question?

G Whittome 2 years ago
>>specific request for an English lesson<< ??? :-))) ( = 噴飯笑話!)
You don't seem to know what sarcasm is, do you? Go and read ReiToei83's post again - slowly and? carefully...
It was a sarcastic comment on the English as spoken by the guy in the clip - and as such out of place in this thread. And I'm not going to go into details about some of the English I read here...

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asxholes 2 years ago
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Your challenge already proved that my response to his request served its purpose in every way. Hope? you put it into your pipe and smoke it before wandering further away from your major concern --"human rights." Look at this so-called "human rights champion" whose? behavior speaks volumes.? No sarcasm intended:-).

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shibownbown 2 years ago
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"Gainax doesn't afraid? of anything. They are pretty cool guys."
Your excellent English clearly does not make people? laugh.....

coffee0tea 2 years ago
Does? better English mean better argument?? Where's the link?

alvincyt 2 years ago
There is no link between language proficiency and argument, while those Chinese flunkies have neither one of? them.

Jiangzhi Chen 2 years ago
Dude I bet you don't dare to walk into the American embassy this way, even if you just want to say "I love you Obama!" There is great chance you get? arrested, or worse, shot to death...

TheRealChina 2 years ago
FREE LIU XIAOBO !
Democracy in China? !

slightmoon 2 years ago
Nobel? prize is just a joke. The middle east looking guy is disgusting.

georgehua09 2 years ago
西方列强(现在也不怎么强了)一直用一种高人一等的姿态来评判中-国,从心里就没有想跟我们平等过,他们真的希望中国发展成美国一-样?我们离他 们其实还有很大一阵距离他们就紧张了,什么"中国威-胁论""中国崩溃论"全来了,中国不会因为他们喊几句就不发展了-,也不会因为他们喊几句就 崩溃了.毛泽东不是一位完人,一生也犯-了很多错,但最重要的是他敢对西方列强说不,他是真正站起来的巨-人,所以西方人也尊重他.如果不是毛泽 东一定要搞原子弹,我怀疑-我们这些人是不是还有机会活在这个世上.刘晓波等人最终只会成为-西方人手中的一张牌,换取一些利益而已,就象六四民 运分子一样.-你真得偑服西方人的阳谋--他们有中国人来打压中国人, 不费一枪一弹,就能扰人之兵,其实最终目的就一个,打压中国,抑-制中国发展,让中国永远成为二等国家,或者变成无数个傀儡小国.-静心用自己的脑袋想一 想,如果觉得中国政府不好的,提了建议也不-改的,那么我建议那些民主斗士们勇敢地团结起来推翻它,建立一个-完全民主自由的国家.?

georgehua09 2 years ago
姑且不谈刘晓波对错,就算是冤假错案,作为外国人也只应该提醒中-国政府重新考虑,而不是强迫中国政府放人,这是对所有中国人的歧-视,这包括对 中国政府及共产党持不同意见的人.中国人的可悲之处-就在于汉奸太多.另外,就本人所见,还没有碰到一个外国人睢得起-整天说自己祖国这不好那不 好的人.那些整天喊着要民主的人醒醒吧-,真的不是每一样都适合中国的国情的.西方国家是富人政治,如果-中国完全发展中美国这样,恐怕到时候反 中反共的斗士们也没有几位-能讲上话的,你能保证你将来一定能赚很多钱,多到花一亿多美元来-竞选?有时候看起来很好的东西并不一定好用的.?

alvincyt 2 years ago
中共在民國年代, 於江西瑞金成立蘇維埃政權, 勾結蘇共勢力,? 自行頒布憲法, 拒絕承認中國憲法, 更與蘇聯串連推動蒙古公投, 最終分裂外蒙. 中共正是中國史上最大的漢奸了!

georgehua09 2 years ago
反政府总是要受到政府追剿的,所以当时的中国合法政府疯狂围剿中-共,我的祖父也支持并参加了剿共大军。但是,共产党毕竟推翻了国-民党,现在它 是联合国承认的合法政府,所以它依法制裁依靠外国势-力,企图肢解中国、推翻政府的敌对分子也是天经地义的。任何外国-势力对合法政府天经地义的 法律行为进行干预都是对中华民族的傲慢-与不尊重。中国的问题须由中国人自己解决。苏俄当年的傲慢受到过-包括毛泽东本人在内的中国人的抵制和谴 责,就跟现在大家谴责诺委-会傲慢对待中国法律一样。直到有一天,LXB的08宪章取代了中-共宪法,你等推翻了中共政府,我也希望你等自己解决 中国自己的问-题;我也一样会站在自己同胞一边坚决抵制和谴责任何外来干涉。?

alvincyt 2 years ago
錯了!? 根據你這個邏輯推論, 這些外來干涉, 理應留待中共倒台, 新政權上台後才去抵制譴責, 因為你主子中共都一樣等到上台後才去抗拒蘇俄的.
不要再推銷你那套輸打贏要的雙重標準了.

georgehua09 2 years ago
反政府有反政府的逻辑,政府有政府的逻辑,我坚持的既不是政府的-逻辑也不是反政府的逻辑,而是维护中华民族尊严的逻辑。哪种逻辑-最符合维护我 们的民族尊严,那才是我的逻辑。就你目前的心态,要-求你换位思考只能是一种奢望。?

alvincyt 2 years ago
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呵呵! 我對你提出的質疑與詰問, 你一句也答不上. 怎麼了? 這麼快就理屈詞窮, 要轉移視線了?
告訴你,? 我根本不用販賣甚麼反政府的邏輯, 在剛過去的幾分鐘, 我就拿了幾段關於"孔子和平獎"的報導, 跟我在facebook的所有外國朋友分享. 我可沒有附加任何個人意見, 別人都有獨立思考, 看過後自然會對你主子的素質和底蘊有更深刻的認識.

alvincyt 2 years ago
再告訴你一點, 目前國內的核心異見領袖約20萬, 而且在不斷增加, 你主子在剛過去一年的"維穩"成本要人民幣5000億. 順著這個勢頭, 你主子再不及時推行民主化, 不出20年就要倒台, 這是連很多大陸學者也能預見的趨勢.? 所以, 我們根本不用宣揚甚麼反政府邏輯, 只要閒來說說落井下石的風涼話就足夠了, 若能令這個周期加快一點, 則更是錦上添花.
薩哈羅夫在1973年得了和平獎, 十幾年後蘇共就垮台. 所以, 現在就有學者估計, 劉曉波這個獎, 會令中共政權的民主化或覆亡化提前十幾年, 當然極權主義者的幫閒宵小, 是不會明白其中的原理的.

georgehua09 2 years ago
好!非常激动人心。热切期待着您美梦成真的这一天!看来诺贝尔奖-还真有推翻他国政府的威力啊?这么说,中共政府反感,认为其干涉-内政并非空穴 来风哦?无论什么结局,作为外籍华人,只希望你们以-最和平、最稳健、最体面、最有尊严的方式争取regime change,并尽可能减轻人民的疾苦和损失。千万不要让我们华-人丢脸。另外,我的主子现在是加拿大。你口口声声"你的主子"是-指加拿大政府吗?企图 推翻加拿大政府,那么诺委会得先给我发个和-平奖才行啊?呵呵:-)?

asxholes 2 years ago
...看来诺贝尔奖-还真有推翻他国政府的威力啊?...企图推-翻加拿大政府,那么诺委会得先给我发个和-平奖才行啊?---H- ahahaha....I'm doubling up with laughter! You guy so funny! ?

alvincyt 2 years ago
呵呵! 你的主子是加拿大吧, 那麼看來你早就宣誓效忠英女皇了吧, 那還有啥資格談甚麼民族尊嚴,? 甚麼外來干涉呢? 甚麼是內甚麼是內, 在你入籍那一天不就已經change了麼?

alvincyt 2 years ago
再告訴你一點, 國民政府當年再如何圍剿中共也好,? 至少也讓它有言論出版自由, 讓它天天發表社論鼓吹聯省獨立, 鼓吹普選, 鼓吹多黨制. 現在的中共比民國好嗎? 有這份胸襟嗎?

alvincyt 2 years ago
又再問你, 你不留在加拿大, 回到你主子懷抱去,? 又不翻牆的話, 你能上youtube嗎? 你主子會讓你上youtube發表這些偉論嗎?

georgehua09 2 years ago
哈哈哈。。。那样不是更好吗?就没有人为您提供另一种逻辑了,那-您岂不正好可以大行其道,在youtube上尽情贩卖您的私货---反政府逻辑 了。您的反政府逻辑正好反证了中共将LXB收监是合-理合法的,因为你们不承认执政的合法政府并试图将其推翻嘛!我不-能说中共做的绝对正确,但 从您揭示的历史逻辑来看,至少是天经地-义吧。?

alvincyt 2 years ago
呵呵! 我對你提出的質疑與詰問, 你一句也答不上. 怎麼了? 這麼快就理屈詞窮, 要轉移視線了?
告訴你, 我根本不用販賣甚麼反政府的邏輯, 在剛過去的幾分鐘, 我就拿了幾段關於"孔子和平獎"的報導, 跟我在facebook的所有外國朋友分享. 我可沒有附加任何個人意見, 別人都有獨立思考, 看過後自然會對你主子的素質和底蘊有更深刻的認識.?

georgehua09 2 years ago
好多东西都是屁股决定脑袋的事情。我跟你们不同的地方就像我声明-的,屁股既不坐在中国政府一边,也不坐在反中国政府的一边,而只-站在中华民族 一边。作为外籍华人,最在意的是本族裔的尊严。本来-我是反对将LXB这样的沽名钓誉之辈关进监狱的,认为他成不了什-么气候。但是当诺委会公然 藐视中国合法政府的法律时,那种民族矛-盾立刻占据了主导地位。拘捕LXB无论对错,都只能由中国人自己-判断和解决,任何外来干涉都是一种对我 族裔智慧的侮辱。而这种视-角是与任何极端分子截然不同的。为什么要被您等极端反政府人士牵-着鼻子走呢??

alvincyt 2 years ago
1. 你的屁股在你的護照一邊, 你可是宣誓了要效忠的.
2. 諾貝爾頒獎給馬丁路德金時, 他也是美國的罪犯, 可美國人卻沒有說那是藐視美國法律, 更不認為那是甚麼民族矛盾. 相反, 人家更讓政治和法律變得更公義,? 這就是中國沒有的胸襟了.
3. 別忘記你已經不是中國人, 按照你自己所同意的邏輯, 那你已經沒有資格以外來身份去干涉中國的事情了.

georgehua09 2 years ago
1.国籍与族裔尊严想必任何在北美生活的人都能区分。这里没有效-忠问题,只有族裔尊严驱动的明辨是非问题。我已经说了,你等梦想-成真之日,一 样要求你们让海外华裔多感受一点民族自豪感。2.何-时马丁路德金成了美国的罪犯?他是民权领袖,不是企图推翻合法政-府的罪犯。原来我也没有觉 得LXB是企图推翻政府的罪犯,是您反-复强调这一点的,所以中国政府做的对是你确认的,诺奖推翻政府的-威力也是你交代的。3.没错,我没有资 格干涉中国内政,我干涉了-嘛?呵呵:-)。?

alvincyt 2 years ago
1. 哈哈! 若你區分國籍和族裔尊嚴是那麼"嚴格"的話, 那你以後就要少說點甚麼"中國合法法律"的屁話了, 因為族裔是沒有法律的, 只有國家才有法律. 至於所謂效忠問題, 再具體說明一下, 就是明天若加拿大跟中國打起仗來, 你到底要站在哪一邊, 到時你的民族自豪在哪裡? 2. LXB也不是企圖推翻合法政府, 支持他的人有沒有這個企圖, 跟他本人沒有關係, 不要把邏輯混淆了. 3. 你有沒有干涉中國內政,? 性質就跟LXB有沒有干涉中國內政一樣咯!

georgehua09 2 years ago
你是越来越语无伦次了,逻辑而且相当混乱,估计你也没有读过多少-书,跟你扯皮真是浪费时间。国籍和族裔尊严本来就有两个完全不同-层面的概 念,"严格"何从谈起?为什么一个加拿大人就不能评论"-中国合法政府"的合法行为呢?这完全是旁观者的角度对某项争端提-出的客观看法,莫非你 想剥夺我的发言权?恐怕办不到吧?除非你自-己拿个诺贝尔奖,用那块硬邦邦的奖牌把我砸死,呵呵。至于效忠问-题,那是傻瓜们经常爱玩的低智商游 戏,除了说明国籍和族裔认同的-确存在以外,其它毫无意义,因为它属个人隐私。能问出这样问题者-在人权问题上都是伪君子。2.LXB企图推翻合 法政府不是我说的-,而是你用国共交恶的类比反复强调的;诺奖推翻政府的威力也是你-反复强调的。3.如你所述,LXB对PRC就如同当年PRC 对K-MT,而我则始终是海外华人的角度,也就是月球看地球的角度,请-不要搞乱逻辑,混淆视听。?

alvincyt 2 years ago
1. 是呢自己說, 你不是在支持政府一邊, 也不是反對政府一邊, 而是中華民族一邊. 然而, 立法的只有政府而不是民族, 執法的亦只有政府而不是民族. 所以, 若你只站在民族上說話, 那你根本就沒有資格去討論中國政府是不是合法, 或其行為是不是合法, 除非你做過普查,? 證明13億中華兒女大部份都支持這個政府和它的行為. 懂了沒有? 奴才.
2. 不好意思, 入籍加拿大這個所謂"個人隱私", 你不說, 別人都會知道需要經過甚麼手續. 宣誓效忠英女皇, 那是必然的, 用"個人隱私"作為迴避質問的借口, 只是掩耳盜鈴而已.
3. 我是說若LXB的言論要入獄的話, 你主子毛澤東就該上斷頭台, 兩者程度根本不一致, 怎會有"如同"可言? 至於諾獎的威力, 就算給我有幸言中, 那也不過是環境因素, 與劉曉波個人言行或動機扯不上關係, 看來混淆視聽的是你吧.

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georgehua09 2 years ago
再看看您的遣词口吻,说你等在人权问题上属于伪君子一类没有冤枉--你吧?你我都是在行使法律赋予的言论自由,可是你确左一个"奴-才-"有一 个"奴才"地诽谤他人,你是如何捍卫人权的?我的言论-自由-在法律许可的范围内是无条件的,这一点基本常识难道你都没-有?你-看我在这里质疑 过你的发言权吗?我就连LXB的发言权也-没有质疑-,甚至跟你说过,我起初根本就是反对逮捕他的,只是在-你反复启发-下,才觉得中国政府对付 反政府势力的做法也有他一定-的合法性和合理性而已。如果-你还认为人权重要,请不要那么虚伪-地企图剥夺我的言论权。自重!?

alvincyt 2 years ago
呵呵! 看來你除了是奴才, 更連基本的法律常識也沒有. 罵人"奴才"是誹謗, 看來你連"陳述"和"評論"兩個概念也未搞清楚吧. 要構成誹謗, 首先要滿足的條件, 就是對事實的錯誤陳述, 可罵你"奴才"卻沒有甚麼事實不事實可言, 那只是一個評論. 美國和加拿大的司法制度, 可不像你主子般, 能以個別人的主觀願望壓倒一切的. 若你堅持是誹謗的話, 試試發訴狀控告我吧, 到時我就在庭上再說你是奴才,? 說100遍, 看你能不能贏? 不敢的話, 就再提高一下自己的常識水平, 以後當個合格的奴才.

georgehua09 2 years ago
你不要以为不值得为你浪费时间将你告上法庭,你就不是诽谤。只要-某人不是任何人的奴才,而你却侮称其为奴才,就是一种诽谤,sl-ander。 在北美,你随便骂人就不是诽谤了?你在街上骂人"香-蕉"、"Orio"试试,碰上跟你较真的就得让你戴上手铐。看来-你等真正的是非常虚伪的人 权伪斗士,就连骂人都那么理直气壮,简-直不可思议。算了,奉劝各位网友,你们大凡碰到口口声声民主人权-,却理直气壮满口脏话,任意谩骂侮辱他 人的人,那你们不必跟他们-浪费时间,因为他们就是最典型的践踏人权的暴徒。晚安!?

alvincyt 2 years ago
"In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a malicious, false,[2]? and defamatory spoken statement or report"
你能證明你不是奴才麼? 你能證明這個形容對你而言是false麼? 可憐復可笑的奴才, 不知道burden of proof在控方麼?

georgehua09 2 years ago
很好,你引证的条款正好说明骂人"奴才"是典型的malicio-u,false and defamatory? spoken statement!你是要人举证证明自己不是"奴才",你的诽-谤就成立。这一点就够了,说明我没有用错概念。读者心中自有判断-。你是利用了你毫无价 值让任何人成为控方这一点竭尽诽谤之能事的-。很好,继续你的骂人生涯吧!

alvincyt 2 years ago
@georgehua09 @georgehua09 呵呵! 讓人戴上手銬的, 是刑事罪行. 既是刑事罪行, 就更不用浪費你那一文不值的時間, 甚至死不足惜的生命了. 乾脆向當地執法機關告發我, 警察就會為你代勞了.
我現在就再說一遍 - 你是奴才, 一個不折不扣, 徹頭徹尾的奴才. 怎樣了? 快告發我去, 讓我戴上手銬去. 可三天以後, 或一星期以後,? 仍見我在這裡嘲笑你這奴才的話, 就證明你這奴才是井底之蛙, 自暴其醜了.
怎樣了? 奴才快去告發我吧.

alvincyt 2 years ago
還有, 有個問題你還沒有答我, youtube在中國大陸境內是被屏蔽的, 是被禁止訪問的網站,? 國內人都要用翻牆技術才能瀏覽的. 那你為甚麼跑到國外去上youtube? 你是不是在否定主子網絡管理的合法性?

Moljudo 2 years ago
That's none of your business, I guess. He has told you he's a Canadian.? And your behavior is no better than any human-rights abuser. You have my sympathy, though. Take care!

alvincyt 2 years ago
呵呵! 讓人戴上手銬的, 是刑事罪行. 既是刑事罪行, 就更不用浪費你那一文不值的時間, 甚至死不足惜的生命了. 乾脆向當地執法機關告發我, 警察就會為你代勞了.
我現在就再說一遍 - 你是奴才, 一個不折不扣, 徹頭徹尾的奴才. 怎樣了? 快告發我去, 讓我戴上手銬去. 可三天以後, 或一星期以後,? 仍見我在這裡嘲笑你這奴才的話, 就證明你這奴才是井底之蛙, 自暴其醜了.
怎樣了? 奴才快去告發我吧.

alvincyt 2 years ago
再問你, 你在這侃侃而談中國政府合法, 中國政府的行為合法, 你認為你有沒有權利去評論? 若你認為自己有, 那再問你, LXB又有沒有權利談中國政府不合法,? 談中國政府的行為不合法呢?

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alvincyt 2 years ago
不好意思, 你偷換概念的舔共邏緝不能成立, 因為:
1. 我可沒有說過LXB vs PRC = PRC vs KMT, 我早已說LXB跟CCP上台前的言行有根本上的不同(若LXB要-收監, CCP就該上斷頭台).
2. 中共可是在LXB獲諾獎前一年就已經把他收監, 所以諾獎的影響不能用來證明判刑的絲毫正當性.
3. 反而這裡有人說, 把諾獎頒給這罪犯是故意干涉中國法律, 如果這邏緝成立, 令LXB獲獎的最大功臣就是中共本身, 那麼做成這個影響,? 最不打自招的就是中共, 最應該用國民政府當年手段對付的也是中共, 因為是中共讓LXB獲獎的.

georgehua09 2 years ago
1.你一开始就是以CPC当年的行为类比以LXB为代表的反政府-力量在此亮相的,LXB是"收监",瑞金时期是"围剿",没错,-确有区 别:27年4.12上断头台的CPC不正是数以万计吗?可-见,CPC上断头台,LXB只坐11年牢,五十步与百步的区别清-晰明了,性质相同, 但行为有别,所以这种类比确认了PRC行为的-合法性。是你的启发。2. 一年前收监怎么啦?我当初是反对的,在你的启发下,现在明白了,-我这样的书生哪知道08宪章葫芦里卖的什么药?我又不是专业政治-运动员,一年前哪看得 出他的真实意图啊?现在你等不打自招,反村-了中国合法政府的远见卓识。3.表面上看中共的确帮了LXB的忙-,但是现在已经不重要了。重要的是 那个奖毕显推翻他国政府的意图-,LXB所代表的你等反政府势力也原形毕露,这一点对中共来说是-最重要的,等于挑开了脓头。?

alvincyt 2 years ago
不好意思, 你又類比錯誤了.
1. 瑞金被圍剿, 因為那裡有分裂國家的具體行動. 可只是發表反政府言論的新華日報呢? 有被圍剿嗎?? 有被收監嗎? 那為何LXB就要收監? 看來你連甚麼是五十步, 甚麼是一百步的概念也未搞得懂.
2. 08憲章有甚麼意圖, 難道會因獲得諾貝爾獎與否而有所轉移? 難道你主子早在一年前就知道LXB會贏得諾貝爾獎? 那為何這"罪狀"沒有寫在判決書呢? 那不是證明其罪行的有力證據麼. 你這說法, 恰恰證明了你的自打嘴巴.
3. 怎會不重要呢? 既然你認為諾獎可以讓LXB的判刑合理化, 那麼協助他獲獎的中共當然也罪無可恕了.

georgehua09 2 years ago
如果类比有错,那不是我的类比,是你的类比。最初谁提出瑞金的?-谁说如果LXB收监,那么CPC就该上断头台的?你啊!我只是受-你类比的启 发,觉得CPC上断头台和LXB收监都是合法政府的依-法量刑而已啊。其它更是不值得浪费时间了,一句话,你的逻辑混乱-,而且做一个奴才有一个 奴才的骂人,说明什么问题呢?你心智错乱-了,所以除了骂人之外没有更好的发泄渠道。恕不奉陪。晚安!?

Moljudo 2 years ago
I love your style, buddy! You leave the hypocritical human-rights abuser exposed, spreadeagle, swearing and kicking. How pathetic he is! I'll learn from you and take your advice: never get entangled with foul mouths. A good lesson, indeed! Thank you very much!?

love09kiwi 2 years ago
别跟那个alvincyt,他有病,得治.?

georgehua09 2 years ago
同感。所以我已在旁观其歇斯底里了。我一贯奉行骂不还口。歇斯底-里骂人说明他理屈词穷了。(1)恼羞成怒。什么让他恼,什么使他-羞呢?失败, 败阵之后一般总会歇斯底里骂人的;(2)教养差,满-脑子"奴才""奴才"一遍遍重复还能学啥别的东西;(3)修养差-,平日不注意养心;(4) 面容也不会太好,因为只有洗心才能革面-,一个人心里装满"奴才",脸上一定会显现出来。不用照面,就凭-其骂人之歇斯底里就可以为其画幅漫画 了。继续观其表演吧。谢谢!-?

georgehua09 2 years ago
我原本认为LXB跟我一样拥有发言权,但是在您的LXBvsPR-C=?PRCvsKMT类比公式的启发下,觉得如果像你所说以0-8宪章?取代 PRC的宪法,并如您断言LXB拿到诺奖后PRC将-很快被推翻,那么中国合法政府以民国政府当年对付共匪之手段对付-你等群党也属天经地义。完 全是你不打自招所致。要怪还是怪您自己-吧。如果你忏悔了,说你们不是想推翻合法政府,只是跟我一样作壁-上观,当然我们都享有平等权力。您不会 再剥夺我的发言权了吧?谢-谢您的幡然悔悟:-)。?

alvincyt 2 years ago
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不好意思, 你偷換概念的舔共邏緝不能成立, 因為:
1. 我可沒有說過LXB vs PRC = PRC vs KMT, 我早已說LXB跟CCP上台前的言行有根本上的不同(若LXB要--收監, CCP就該上斷頭台).
2.? 中共可是在LXB獲諾獎前一年就已經把他收監, 所以諾獎的影響不能用來證明判刑的絲毫正當性.
3. 反而這裡有人說, 把諾獎頒給這罪犯是故意干涉中國法律, 如果這邏緝成立, 令LXB獲獎的最大功臣就是中共本身, 那麼做成這個影響, 最不打自招的就是中共, 最應該用國民政府當年手段對付的也是中共, 因為是中共讓LXB獲獎的.

georgehua09 2 years ago
其实人类的发展史只有几千年, 我们回顾一下就不难发现自1840年后, 西方各国就象狼一样地想吞食中国创造的财富. 如果说西方人真为中国人作想,? 他们为什么总是对中国实行技术封锁, 为什么只将大麻鸦片这样的东西输送到中国?共产党也许不是最优秀-的党,中国也许不是最富最民主的国家,但这并妨碍我们热爱我们的-国家,俗话说子不嫌母 丑,母亲再丑也是母亲.自古以来想依靠国外-势力在国内做成大事的在中国基本没有,将来也不会有.

alvincyt 2 years ago
中共在民國時期, 在中國境內成立蘇維埃政權, 接受蘇共資金及軍火, 那是不是依靠外國勢力??

LEI PAN 2 years ago
说得太好了。。。。?

kickong 2 years ago
shame on the? big beard

love09kiwi 2 years ago
to be colony of other countries is a way be get your so called peace? Look at what Liu Xiaobo have said. before the prize, I have never known that Liu is such kind of person who receive money from America and at the same time said china should? be a colony for 300 years to get communists.

alvincyt 2 years ago
LOL, you want to discuss about history? Here you? go:
1. 毛澤東曾倡議成立湖南共和國, 更鼓吹中國各省自中華民國獨立出去.
2. 中共建國前推動外蒙獨立公投, 最後成功分裂外蒙.
3. 中共在三十年代於江西瑞金成立蘇維埃政權, 勾結蘇共勢力, 自行頒布憲法.
4. 中共於七十年代曾拒絕收回澳門
5. 中共1920年社論:《反對統一》
6. 中共1920年社論: 《打破沒有基礎的大中國建設許多中國從湖南做起》
劉曉波有無收美國錢, 我不知道, 但中共在民國時期在中國境內成立蘇維埃政權, 接受蘇共資金及軍火, 就係鐵一般史實.
如劉曉波言論足以收監, 那你主子就應被送上斷頭台, 更不用說有執政的資格.

alvincyt 2 years ago
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Btw,? you did not answer my question yet. Why don't you ask your chairman Hu to carry out a referandum and find out what's the feeling? of the Chinese majority and how they interpret the term "peace"? Dare you?

whoopyNL whoopy 2 years ago
THIS MEN IS NOT DUTCH ASWELL HIS A? IMIGRANT FUCKTARD AND LET HOLLAND LOOK SHIT SORRY FOR ALL CHINEES

whoopyNL whoopy 2 years ago
SORRY CHINEES PEOPLE THIS IS JUST A RETARD WE LOVE CHINEES IN HOLLAND ?

clinxzuo 2 years ago
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it? is great fun!!!

Pak Yiu Yick 2 years ago
151 50-cent party members on? YouTube. Go fuck yourself

equn 2 years ago
China should reform at a faster pace to win respect of the world.
Imprison Liu is not a correct thing to do.
This video is fun!?

VickyInDC2009 2 years ago
Nobel peace is more and more like a? joke. Look at who got it? and based on whose judgment? Nobel prize committee's? Western way = universal way?

tcl83 2 years ago
Great surprise! Yes indeed a great day for the Chinese people. They should stand up and defend their? freedom against the authoritarian regime of PRC.

match999 2 years ago
开门的小屁孩要倒霉了。你能听到张大使最后说了一句:这是谁让他-进来的??

latiasandlatios1234 2 years ago
it is? a musllin"s style joke.fucking mid-east ass hole.

TheRealChina 2 years ago
FREE Liu Xiaobo? !
& FREE All Tibetan Political prisoners !

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JDYTC 2 years ago
he is; working for Dutch television? for more than a decade

cactuslw 2 years ago
This is open insult to the ambassador (though he need some PR training) but still that is very bad example of free express.sure the guy did show his grievance but he was neither convincing nor giving any reason, instead he behaved more like a rude guest who should? go back to school to learn some courtesy

alexguo20 2 years ago
i think this video can fully explain why? this guy and their people could be bombed in their contries....look at his beard!! Dose he know anything about his ancestors?? If so, why not send a bom-b to 'another' embassy and explore himself!!!! mother f-u-c-ker

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
This middle-east dude is probably under the payroll of some western country! Just? another traitor of the Middle East! He should be ashamed of himself!

gordiflu 2 years ago
Exactly, it's a Chinese embassy... IN EUROPE!!
Now go try to do something? similar in China, see what happens.

latiasandlatios1234 2 years ago
Taymour Abdel Wahab was? the brother of this musllin guy. do you guys konw who is Taymour Abdel Wahab. Can he represent dutch people too?

立 贝 2 years ago
If he is a Dutch citizen ,? he is a Dutch!

nasridine 2 years ago
well according to Armand, they were holding some exhibition that day and like Zhang said in the clip, they? were expecting some college kids. How the fuck would he know what the stupid "dutch" was coming for, smartass?

Cooper Peng 2 years ago
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it is? a peace prize,? but the NOBEL did not reward this award in a peace way.

nasridine 2 years ago
cuz the muslim is a fucking punk.? Tell me how you deal with a crazy idiot like this

kleinverzet 2 years ago
Sorry, but he realy is a self declared? infidel. But you must be a commie!

nasridine 2 years ago
you are damn right I'm a commie, so be careful of what the? fuck you say

InfernalSatan 2 years ago
The Chinese embassy was? holding some exhibition that day, so everybody can walk in.

sweetozarka 2 years ago
So? annoying.............

shibownbown 2 years ago
It is pretty amazing that the Chinese ambassy is so open to the public....Had he dared to do so to any of the US ambassies, he would? just be arrested or shot....Without doubt...

luyefar 2 years ago
If you want to insult American you should have a strong reason to embarrass them face to face. But unfortunately you can hardly find? a reason the world agree with.

shibownbown 2 years ago
: Wow, the US really has so many Taiwanese running dogs....Unfortunately your US masters has already abandoned you Taiwanese in 1979 to embrace the evil China.....What the US is doing in Afgan and Iraq is 1000 times more evil than what the Chinese government is doing....Look at the number of people killed ever since they? started the wars...It is ridiculous to say we don't have strong reasons to "embarrass them face to face"....

luyefar 2 years ago
Aren't you a dog or just? a meat ball.

shibownbown 2 years ago
: in comparison to Chinese, Taiwanese,? as people from a rebelling province of China, are more like meat balls.....

koertje 2 years ago
Hey Sadeghi, maak? Nederland niet belachelijk.

trr4l 2 years ago
stop hating china fucking jews?

trr4l 2 years ago
he's an? iranian dissident

DerkvanL 2 years ago
Upvoted, brilliant 2.0
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vincere xie 2 years ago
Check the videos ( watch?v=yDD5waedS4I,watch?v=du--a5sa8j9a0, watch?v=xH7RKh99yFQ, watch?v=STtKvS3NM18, watch?v=JXL9mxV49xo ) . Check how the terrorist killed the Chinese people last year. An ugly woman at that time said nothing to condemn those terrorist because they belong to the same ethnic group. But? she distorted the? truth and condemn the people who were killed! And condemn the police who later came and control the riot! This ugly woman was invited to the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE event!

churde 2 years ago
he is a (moderalty famous) dutch? host of discussion and community events. he is also a programmaker. he used to have a blond coupe, im suprised to see him like this to :P. but he knows his shit and is dutch,

Pjotful 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong. The joke is to put two opposites against each other. A 'sandpit fight' and honestly... I think the ambassador won. No slap in the? face or humiliation involved and no need 2 get all nationalistic over it.

Harregarre 2 years ago
This muslim cunt should? do stuff about his religious brothers blowing themselves up in Sweden. But no, he has to abuse Chinese hospitality and taunt them. I think it's fair to say that Asia and the West should unite against muslims.

kleinverzet 2 years ago
China is a totalitarian friend of rogue? nations like Somalia and North Korea, let's face it China is just no partner in the defense of freedom, the Iran dude in this video however is.

nasridine 2 years ago
yeah..yeah..yeah..Don't you ever go to China. I'm? pretty damn sure you will be fucked in the ass hard the moment you stepped on its soil!

Harregarre 2 years ago
And we're a friend of a rogue nation like the United States of America. Let's face it, we're just the lap dog of the USA and we even? fight along with them in their search for oil.

kleinverzet 2 years ago
You must be confused. We should never ever stand up for dictators that gas their own people. Nor for Dictators that threaten the world's oil? supply, a worldwide precondition for the prosperity of the people. Doing that would make us a lap dog of a genocidal maniac.

carmamartsa 2 years ago
@asxholes hahaah...what a hypocrite u are,you have no issue with Chinese govt insulting n humiliating its own people like Liu Xiaobo- a great NOBEL LAUREATES by? imprisoning him !!! Instead you have issue with the person who whishes FREEDOM of speech for the Chinese. If Americans or Western people treates its citizens in Chinese way ....all the people would land up in prison. Pathetic.

asxholes 2 years ago
Let me try to sort out ur moronic logic: Because the Chinese govt imprisoned ur god? LXB, all the Chinese working for that govt are subject to insult and humiliation in the name of No-Peace Prize. Is that so?

kleinverzet 2 years ago
What kind of insults are you? referring to?

zhoutian01 2 years ago
dont insult your enemy, but beat him.
dont insult all the chinese, but beat the chinese.
otherwise, all your so called insultation makes? you looks girly.
do something substantial.

zhoutian01 2 years ago
people like you may know well the way to insult others, but let me tell you that insultating is the last weapon that a man could use.
use some real weapon instead of just your mouth, as it changes nothing.?

carmamartsa 2 years ago
hahaah...what a hypocrite u are,you have no issue with Chinese govt insulting n humiliating its own people like Liu Xiaobo- a great NOBEL LAUREATES by imprisoning him !!! Instead you have issue with the person who whishes FREEDOM of speech for the Chinese. If Americans or Western people treates its citizens in Chinese way ....all the people would land? up in prison. Pathetic.

rainbowincloud 2 years ago
just a fu*king middle east guy, he using the chinese ppls' kindness to talking shit, what a shame, the? ambassy let it inside, rats

CMETRIQUE 2 years ago
China has 1,3 BILLION people... YOU CANNOT have democracy like we have? it here in very small countries. I love China and the gov in there, screw our Dutch hippies that think the world is the same at all places.
If China did not rule by iron hand they would have chaos and the country would be ripped apart.

Pjotful 2 years ago
Its? like Anatole France said : If a million people say a foolish thing... it's still a foolish thing.

carmamartsa 2 years ago
India has over 1 billion people ..how their has working for over 50 years????
Are you saying that Chinese people doesn't not? deserve freedom of speech, right to vote,human right? Democracy?

nasridine 2 years ago
India? Pfft.... Sure they have democracy. But look at how fucked up the society and people are. I'm sure you won't survive more than an hour? when you are in India. Besides, it will probably take them 1 billion year to catch up with China in any fucking way.

nasridine 2 years ago
A fucking muslim! There is a great chance the Nobel shit prize will be awarded to this? motherfucker or alike!

schan uleke 2 years ago
Wat een mongool, die moslim met die baard. Hij heeft werkelijk geen idee.?

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Pjotful 2 years ago
mafketel :P?

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
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It? proves CHina is a country of openness, respect & with friendships around world!! Y? because CHina does NOT have to shut its embassy doors with heavy security presents like? all the American Embassies around the world would have! It doesn't? matter who this clown is, HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE FREEDOM & OPENNESS? OF THE CHINESE EMBASSY! I can image a person of his ethnicity walking into an American? Embassy, first would be impossible, but if he succeeded somehow he would be arrested immediately

quincy103LFC 2 years ago
Omg, You are really expecting a bomb? in the flowers!

luyefar 2 years ago
He may? be a refugee. Anyway, He said what I want to say.

Melvinisawesome 2 years ago
4:05 the guy said in Chinese 这是谁让他进来的? meaning "who the heck let this guy get in here?" hahaha epic!?

nigaia 2 years ago
Haha very funny. As? a Chinese I find this very amusing, esp. when he said "I hope that in the future the Chinese government will win more prizes for peace because the way you treat your people is great!"

hopethereusa 2 years ago
Mr. Bahram Sadeghi acted like a clown. Big day for him for making this video and getting people's attention for his foolish acting. And it seems pretty easy to? pass the security of the Chinese Ambassy... strange...

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
Chinese embassies around the world are all pretty open with little security! China is friendly to the world! China is not the U.S! They lock themselves? in their embassies worrying of terrorist attacks!

term 2 years ago
how can an arabic? guy represent dutch?

leeshunzhen 2 years ago
Could he make himself more funny? The ambassador should not talk? to him at the very beginning~~

boydkoers 2 years ago
Mkaaay...drugs are bad mkay?

timemachi 2 years ago
Ok, as a chinese I say chinese gov is fucked up and so are most of other countries gov, including american gov... Chinese gov is full of shit and? so is others govs, politics lie, we all know that. so no reason to judge because your gov is no better than others at all.

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
At least China does NOT have to lock its embassy doors with heavy security like all American embassies around the world would have to!! China is not afraid? of visitors! COME TO CHINA! WE WELCOME YOU!

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
@w8jij17 Julian Assange is also a HERO!! AND THE ENDING OF ALL HEROs are always the same!!
Its the aggressive one who wins! Like? the war in iraq and afghan!!

feifk 2 years ago
Bahram Sadeghi, i wish your wife wil not? be stoned to death...

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
@Fr1tz31,you think the ambassador habdled very well,but can't? you see the ambassdor stammered? The ambassador Mr. Zhang Jun can not even get his words out straight!! I can sense the deep fear in his heart. He studied in UK, and he knew Tiananmen Massacre when he was 29 yrs old. He should tell right from wrong by himself! The 50 yrs old ambassador is was outsmarted by a 26 yrs old student. I really doubt his IQ. 最后还怪人家:"谁把他弄进来的?"其实还是说:"那个让你直播-的?。。。"就象南京尧化门爆炸式领导训斥记者那样,岂不更好?

魏 凯 2 years ago
Can you say any Chinese words out straight??
Can you show me any video showing a foreign ambassador? in China say any Chinese words out straight??

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
I feel sorry for the ambassador! He is trying to be nice and respectful!! Didn't your? MOM teach you that? Or are all Irish as stubborn as they say?

魏 凯 2 years ago
Read my reply again and see what I meant. I'm Chinese myself and? by the way don't just come along and say something about other's mom.
You also have mom, don't you?????

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
Shit Sorry! misunderstood you!
LONG LIVE CHINA!!?

魏 凯 2 years ago
That's grand. We Chinese people are nice, you? know yourself.

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
haha CHinese are? nice ppl when we want to be! haha

12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
It proves CHina is a country of openness, respect & with friendships around world!! Y? because CHina does NOT have to shut its embassy doors with heavy security presents like all the American Embassies around the world would have! It doesn't?? matter who this clown is, HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE FREEDOM & OPENNESS? OF THE CHINESE EMBASSY! I can image a person of his ethnicity walking into an American? Embassy, first would be impossible, but if he succeeded somehow he would be arrested immediately!

asxholes 2 years ago
And end up in Quantanamo Bay, too.? Good point!

lf2god2003 2 years ago
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STFU you are not a Chinese don't you? you don't even live in? China

alvincyt 2 years ago
If China is such a country of openness, why did she confine Liu's innocent relatives? and friends from travelling aboard? What country in this world would do so against an innocent citizen?

TheRealChina 2 years ago
Liu Xiaobo is True Hero of? China !
imprisonment can't contain Democracy !
FREE Liu FREE CHINA from Chinese Communist Gov't

hagain 2 years ago
then what do you think about the wikileak case? do you think Julian Assange is an innocent citizen? do you think he should be confined? do you think those countries hunting him, freezing his bank account, blocking his? websites are countries not existed in this world? wake up dude, why do you even care about a criminal in China, you have so many to worry about in your own life.

alvincyt 2 years ago
1. He is a wanted person and he turned himself in, and he will be subject to an open hearing. Can you tell me about the charge against Liu's relatives and friends?
2. Then why do you bother to care about? what I am saying here, contradicted moron?

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12gigiJAbomBOMba 2 years ago
Because China is a country of openness and freedom!! China has friends everywhere in the world! China is not afraid or worry !! China doesn;t have to SHUT? ITS EMBASSY DOORS LIKE THEM AMERICANS HAVE TOO!! LOL...

carmamartsa 2 years ago
China has FREEDOM???? How come they kill its own people in millions ( Falun Gong practitioners), shoot its own students (Tienanmen massacre),imprison its own intillectuals ( Liu Xiaobo- )????? Do you a want? a prove?
Go Tienanmen square and shout "Democarcy" n you will get my answer.!!!!!!!!!!

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Marenqo 2 years ago
he? is as much as you would be

Marenqo 2 years ago
he is as much as you would be?

dallasniu 2 years ago
sha chx?

Koko7082 2 years ago
Very bad movie. Let mister Bahram Sadeghi please go to his own country. And he is saying in behalf of the dutch people, that one counts not for me. i think mister Bahram Sadeghi is a fool. By the way, i think its a very good reaction of the chinese? men:)

struisvogel010 2 years ago
Don't exaggerate. It's 500 "gaurding dogs".
At least we? don't kill millions of our own people like China did with the "Great Leap Forward".

kleinverzet 2 years ago
LoL!? BTW Sadeghi is a very funny Iranian immigrant from the Netherlands.

juleshuls 2 years ago
LOL, off broadway TV guy trying? to score an easy hit by doing this.

juleshuls 2 years ago
Who the f*ck is this guy, he isn't Dutch.?

Denniesz 2 years ago
The guy isn't even dutch? and then saying speak on behalf of the Dutch...

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lmxht2010 2 years ago
哈哈,耍耍大使,很有趣味,荷兰人最爱玩这个。不过他们就是忘了-自己还有几千士兵在阿富汗当美国的炮灰ing.
Very funny! Dutch always likes to play this kind of shit to show their 'justness'. Well, Dutch does forget that 2000 of their soldiers are still playing as USA's guarding dogs in Afghanistan. This is the reason why they can't (or definitely can - if? USA says so) get the Noble Prize in the near futhure.

Brulluhman 2 years ago
China very angry, very angry. Not doing business anylonger? with Holland. We keep buying all your babymilkstock, but no flowers.

SarahatHaarlem 2 years ago
As a dutch, I feel so shameful on this guy. He doesn't represent the general opinions from the dutch people. Absolutely not!
And I don't like the way he cheated the Chinese staff. A well-educated? dutch man will never do so.

Fr1tz3l 2 years ago
I think the ambassador handled that quiet well and this guy does not speak? for 'the Dutch people', I am disgusted by this behaviour.

Tenzin Yeshi 2 years ago
Ha ha well Done well Done,? but poor Chinese Guy His face become Red like a monkey Ass... He He.... I feel Really shame on China..

risen h 2 years ago
Shame on you ,too...?

JeremyHesse 2 years ago
伊朗人!有本事到美领馆门口去做做!门口那两个黑人大哥就把你挡-在外面了。别把中国人的友善当好欺负。自己家的事情管管好,再来-对别人家指手 画脚,谢谢!
Iranish!Please mind your own business. If you really wanna struggle for human rights,? please try it for your own people in the US Embassy in Amsterdam. Let's see what the black guards there will do on you!!

risen h 2 years ago
哥们,人黑哥们都当总统了,咱还要把牢狱之灾降到只是说了几句心-里话的人身上,你要跑人美国使馆前面去干嘛呢??

risen h 2 years ago
哈哈哈哈~~well done! Shame on Chinese government? !

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ytachm 2 years ago
為劉曉波唱吧! 為我們的國家唱吧! A song? dedicated to Liu XiaoBo! Let's sing:
/watch?v=LqOFKSywqw4

TheTerrurist 2 years ago
hahahaha totally awesome!?

chinesemandarine 2 years ago
Bahram Sadeghi, you? wait! Don't be complacent too early! Chinese young people will give you a lesson.

coolcooolong 2 years ago
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oh my god, i jus wanna say thank you, then i registered this account! I am a chinese people, oh, my god, you are so cool
i do support nebel committe for any reason this time,
no youtube no facebook, no critisis, or probably simply sealed? all chinese's mouths nex time??
as a chinese people , i do feel shame for those 17 countries who did not attend the nobel peace prize meeting!

coolcooolong 2 years ago
oh my god, i jus wanna say thank you, then? i registered this account! I am a chinese people, oh, my god, you are so cool
i do support nebel committe for any reason this time,
no youtube no facebook, no critisis, or probably simply sealed all chinese's mouths nex time??
as a chinese people , i do feel shame for those 17 countries who did not attend the nobel peace prize meeting!

昀浩 包 2 years ago
Don't Chinese people know how not to be friendly?
A guy? ran into you house, climbed up your shoulder and shit on your head, and you just let him, had him tape the whole process and politely escorts him out of the house? What if there was a bomb in the flower?
Don't try this with any other half way descent embassy, you'll get shot by the guards.

Titanic1954utube 2 years ago
dear commies of china pls? dont kill him for this!

kaiyokemp 2 years ago
shame on? china!!!!!!!!!!

nawanglobsang 2 years ago
His Excellency was very diplomatic, especially in front of the cameras.
Luckily this kind of freedom of speech by journalist is only possible outside of China. In mainland China it is unimaginable and for this kind of interrogation, one ends up in long? term imprisonment and one has to undergo massive physical torture and immense suffering.
In this context we are very fortunate and we have to highly appreciate living in a free world where the law and order is based on democratic principles.

昀浩 包 2 years ago
This kind of freedom of speech is only possible in China, whose people are the most peaceful in the? world. Do the same in an american embassy, the Marines will just shoot you dead, or at least wreck your camera.

childschow 2 years ago
Hey, I am from Hong? Kong, I am a Chinese, and I have to say that WELL DONE MAN !!!

lipingfd 2 years ago
这....?

Jude Wang 2 years ago
Best prank video ever!?

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
@airan28104196319 I am in China right now, I knew the situation well. If you earned plenty money overseas, never try? to go back to China, (except that your daddy is a local big shot), because commie will raise the house price and make inflation to make all your hard saving disappear!! 翻墙可真不容易啊!!

airan28104196319 2 years ago
bullshit nobel 2010!! it is not the chinese people's well! People do not understand the situation? in China, have no right to talk about those bullshit! shut up stupid people!

kelfy 2 years ago
Sorry for the people who got no freedom from uncivilized China. Because of communist, China has been fucked up for 61 years. I can understand why you are so stupid? and can't see the truth. That is not your fault.

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
Mr. Zhang? Jun went to UK as an international student for learning international law in University of Hull at age of 36, He worked as an attache for Tang Jiaxuan later on . He enjoyed talking to the dutchman, because he still need to practise his oral English!!

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tibetiyak 2 years ago
the dictators of Beijing (China) should dialogue with His Holiness Dalai Lama as His Holiness is a man of peace on this earth. Truly, China is lacking far behind of International law and its standards. The law of justice and general Human Rights standards within China and other occupied minority countries like Tibet, Uhigur, inner Mongolia etc. Also those indirectly dominated countries like North Korea, Pakisthan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Vietnam, Burma and etc, etc..... ? Wake up China now!

Gavin Cheng 2 years ago
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I dont think the prize is support? LIU but it is support CCCP. Cuz, last year, the same prize was awarded to Obama who was allowing two war to happen, thousands people to? die. Right?! it's a evil prize and the ambassador should take the greeting. haha

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cruzer619 2 years ago
Thank you Bahram Sadeghi & Dikla? Zeidler for this brilliant piece of work!Good Karma coming to you.

Sidney Bondi 2 years ago
westerners: u can keep bombing? and fcking muslim countries....just leave china alone!!!

queenofallmonkeys 2 years ago
maybe the next time they should send someone who speaks better english, the dutch actually? speak good english you know. :)

latiasandlatios1234 2 years ago
fuckin iranian.?

ericqianli 2 years ago
Personally I don't like the way the guy talks.? He interrupted the ambassador so often that I have to guess wildly he was planning to make a troublesome talk on purpose.

406356690 2 years ago
hahaha lol?

love09kiwi 2 years ago
What a stupid Nobel Peace Price 2010!! How can they ignore the feeling of? most chinese people who want a peaceful country! We Chinese people will never think 2010 10th is a big day. From A Chinese studying in the USA.

alvincyt 2 years ago
Why don't you ask your chairman Hu to carry out a referandum and? find out what's the feeling of the Chinese majority and how they interpret the term "peace"? Dare you?
"True peace is not merely the absence of tension, but the presence of justice." - Martin Luther King Jr.

Yaqian Wang 2 years ago
Nobel Prize for Peace really? sucks this time...
It should go to Assange next year if it really means promoting peace!

lizard151103 2 years ago
as a Chinese i? say:Fuck Communists Party

dino cali 2 years ago
this guy must be an Arabic person living in Holland, just from his fucking accent you will know that.? On the other hand, all those staff working for the Chinese embassy are fool, a guy without photo ID came into the embassy freely and easily met the ambassador, so funny!

tibzikpo 2 years ago
awesome job, i hope Liu Xiaobo knows he? won the noble peace prize, i heard there's no utube in china. das efffiin suxxxx.....

RickHorse 2 years ago
"两岸猿声啼不住,轻舟已过万重山."
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asxholes 2 years ago
Oh, hi, Bahram Sadeghi! Congratulations! It's a big day for you! You're insulting and humiliating the Chinese on behalf of the Dutch people. The Nobel Committe is PRIDE of you! That's exactly the purpose of this Nobel Prize: to poke fun of the Chinese, to slap in the face of their harmonious society, and to humiliate their diplomats! What a comedy! What a joke! The Nobel Committe is grateful to? you! Thank you, my Iranian comedian!

fredlockful 2 years ago
Haha,? FREE LIU XIAOBO. What are you scared of Chinese govt.?

ABOMB75 2 years ago
一看就是个中东傻B。不断打断中国大使说话。真RUDE。?

kelfy 2 years ago
Free Mr Liu and fuck all those stupid? communist.
Greetings from Hong Kong, China.

lyonsu47 2 years ago
I am pround of? Mr.liu.
haha,

fredlockful 2 years ago
Dear Chinese govt., please leave Liu's kidneys inside him and don't? give them to anyone else like you do with other political prisoners.

asxholes 2 years ago
So you want Mr. Liu dead right? now? What a heartless curse?! May it backfire on you!

fredlockful 2 years ago
What? do you mean?

fredlockful 2 years ago
I? don't want him dead, quite the opposite in fact.

asxholes 2 years ago
Thank you, Bahram Sadeghi! Good job producing this comedy to prove to the world that this Nobel Peace Prize is but a joke. But this Chinese diplomat doesn't seem to be cooperative enough. In fact, he can join you willingly to make it funnier. After all, NPP is nothing but a joke awarded to jokers and clowns and the like. That's the main point! Got? it! Thank you!

fredlockful 2 years ago
Maybe you have drunk too much melamine in your? milk (brain defects).

vincere xie 2 years ago
But you believe that Chinese government is taking kidneys from other political prisoners? I really couldn't understand why you guys believe such ridiculous jokes! Welcome to China and? understand China by yourself not by others brainwash.

asxholes 2 years ago
Don't waste time. He knows it's not true but he just wanted to spread it. That's what's called rumor-mongering? to which he is addicted.

fredlockful 2 years ago
People have have been charged by the Chinese govt. Some have? been put to death. These are proven facts - 6 men charged with poisoning milk with melamine on 21 September 2010. Google is your friend.

vincere xie 2 years ago
Is that has anything to do with what you were talking about just now? The kidneys? The 6 criminals? were killing others by the poisoning milk, then why couldn't they get the punishment? OK, now I know who you are. Just let me stop replying you. Thanks for saving my time.

fredlockful 2 years ago
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Yes, in the past the Chinese? govt. has practiced compulsory organ donation on its prisoners. This occurs in other countries but it has never been govt sanctioned. Now you know...google is your friend

asxholes 2 years ago
Hahaha.....everybody can see who is mentally retarded. It took you three posts to catch the real meaning.? Don't curse, pls, dude! Once you curse and swear, you'll be telling the world that you got a fatal kick for slowness:-). Smile and be happy:-).

fredlockful 2 years ago
What curse?Where did I swear? Stay focussed &? please don't distract yourself.

Chunxiao Guo 2 years ago
It is so funny. You made my day?

yymm2006 2 years ago
If I had any doubt whether Liu deserve the prize when the announcement was made, the doubt isall gone after seeing the Chinese government's shameful response. As a Chinese, I am proud of Liu. Thank you, my friend in Netherland? for your effort!

hippo314 2 years ago
I keep imaging about Mr.Bahram Sadeghi go to American embassy with big flower, lol. 3 result.
1th American thinks there is bomb inside the flower, he been shot.
2th. after he? ask why Obama won the rewards and why CIA try to kill Wikileaks owner, then he been beaten like hell,
3th. he never has chance get into American embassy

Sunny Xu 2 years ago
Who was that sucker???? Why did he pretend that he was there for congrats? he was just making fun of the chinese people..... did? he really represent the dutch people?

xianql 2 years ago
it's funny. let? him free

oldfatcrab 2 years ago
thanks for the concern of Mr. Liu, and millions of Chinese people just like Mr. Liu... but I don't think that's a way help anything... first, this never helps Mr. Liu or even make the government hate him more... then, all ppl, except you, shown in this video might be punished by the gvm because of what you have done in the video... they are just doing their job and earn their living, only way? to live in China... why are you pushing them? it's not their fault...

aqubbs 2 years ago
If this fxxking asshole goes to US embassy, he will be blown off just because his disguising beard. WHAT education has this Sadeghi ever taken?! A typical failure of? Dutch education system.

fredlockful 2 years ago
Dear CCCP, please don't cut him up? and use him for body parts like you did witth other prisoners:(

hippo314 2 years ago
anyone? could make a video about Bahram Sadeghi go to American embassy!
lol that would be fun

thetonytang 2 years ago
Iranian? people talking about democracy? What a joke.

hippo314 2 years ago
lol it? is big day for Chinese people, yeah it is, it is the day let me see the truth ugly face of western politician faces and the truth face of Nobel peace rewards, no wonder why Obama won the rewards, oh yeah change :)

aqubbs 2 years ago
This joker is from Iran:
Bahram Sadeghi (1967, Iran) is a former-refugee who lives in Holland since ...I wonder why doesn't this joker dare to go to Iranian embassy or send flowers to Julian Assange, the real peak protector. Xiaobo Liu is notorious for his speech of colonialism. He proposed that? China to be colonized for another 300 years.

Hanli1995 2 years ago
Actually all he did was? call for democratic elections

Fred Wang 2 years ago
ok, ppl with flowers were let in that's a very good demonstration of human right condition @ the embassy............but can you even do the same at US embassy (whose president won the same prize)? i bet they think you are terrorists. I think the ambassador deserves a peace prize, cz' he even? let the stupd jerk finish his stunt!

joyflash2003 2 years ago
I feel this guy is pretending to congrulations to? Chinese people, actually he is intentionally trying to insult Chinese people. He had thought he is doing a smart thing, but actually everyone knows what kind of ugly game he is playing. He is pretty rude! Honestly I thing Chinese people need democracy, but no one will appreciate this kind of stupid "help." It helps nothing except making me throw up.

hippo314 2 years ago
Chinese government always acts like that, that is why I need to fuck up Chinese foreign policy everyday during they change, they are so stupid, so? dumb, they don't know how to deal with those worse western politician

hwu3721 2 years ago
stupid dutch, mind your own business. Peace prize was a joke last year and so does it for this year. Shame on you, Nobel? Committee.

kavanzhang 2 years ago
hahaha funny? one

merdekaataumati1949 2 years ago
Congratulations for the first? Chinese Nobel Prize

vincere xie 2 years ago
Dalai Lama is also Chinese, and a Chinese from PRC. And? there are many Chinese Nobel Laureates though their citizenship are not PRC.

merdekaataumati1949 2 years ago
Dalai Lama is the first? Tibetan who got the Nobel prize.
He is not not Chinese.

vincere xie 2 years ago
You can talk to Dalai Lama if you really wish that Tibetan are not a branch of Chinese and he is not a Chinese. But Dalai Lama cannot make the decision though some people believe that he is a living God and can make any decision for Tibet no matter what other Tibetans? are thinking about. By the way, Dalai Lama is pretending that he is still Chinese. If you don't know why, please do some research on Dalai Lama more carefully.

vincere xie 2 years ago
I understand that you cannot wait to split China into different parts but unfortunately, by this time, Dalai Lama admit that he is a Chinese and he won't ask for the independence of Tibet. Anyway, thanks for let me know who you are and what you? really want from China.

Jian Sun 2 years ago
Mr. Liu is not? the first Chinese Nobel Price, do your homework before comment.

vincere xie 2 years ago
And, there is no need for us to celebrate it because the Nobel Committee isn't selected according to the rules of democracy. People from other countries of the world have no? right to vote.

ytscomin1 2 years ago
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lol, i hope one day people could realize that any actions that promote human good are ultimately independent of the influence of politics, so make a distinction here for yourself: is granting Liu xiaobo the Nobel prize truly an action out of respect, honor? and achievement, or is it entangled with political gimmicks and balancing/counterbalancing, if the latter, then ignore it like you would any other forms of politics as usual, in this case, I think it is thoroughly contaminated with politics

ytscomin1 2 years ago
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lol, i hope one day people could realize that any actions that promote human good are ultimately independent of the influence of politics, so make a distinction here for yourself: is granting Liu xiaobo? the Nobel prize truly an action out of respect, honor and achievement, or is it entangled with political gimmicks and balancing/counterbalancing, if the latter, then ignore it like you would any other forms of politics as usual, in this case, I think it is thoroughly contaminated with politics

ytscomin1 2 years ago
its all politics, i hope people could really see this one day, that any actions that promote the human good are ultimately independent of politics, so make a distinction for yourself here: is granting the nobel prize to Liu Xioabo a truly honorable thing, or is it entangled with politics and power balancing/counterbalancing, if the latter, then? ignore it like you would any other forms of politics as usual. in this case, i think its thoroughly contaminated with the influence of politics

hippo314 2 years ago
More Nobel peace prize come ! more Chinese people will see the real face of Nobel peace awards as western countries tool for tyrannizing other countries, specially those none western power influence asian, african and Latin countries, Even the biggest war criminal Obama can win it, thanks for Nobel peace awards, it likes the global crime awards, so many greedy + bloody politican won this rewards, what is under this nasty rewards?innocent people's? dead body including alot of Chinese people.

yuyushow 2 years ago
Im chinese, Chinese? goverment is a bull shit, We dont like it.

davidzhr 2 years ago
you only represents yourself, don't use the word? " we".

hwu3721 2 years ago
I am also a Chinese, and I? love my country,

295062 2 years ago
How could some of those who are commenting say Mr.Sadeghi is insulting the Chinese? people? Can anyone specify the insulting word or phrase Mr.Sadeghi is using? He calls the ambassador "Your Excellency". Is that insulting? Wake up guys. Use your brains. Don't just repeat what your government leaders are uttering.

295062 2 years ago
If you'll are so against these western values why did you learn English?? I know YouTube is banned in China. So the guys who are writing these racist comments are those who have left China. But why did leave your motherland if you hate the western culture.

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hippo314 2 years ago
why I learn and go to study in western culture? because I want to see the truth face of western people and truth face of western political policy, most of the western people are good, but the western politician are most worse people in this world, look at Iraq and Afghanistan, look at what they did to Mr.Julian Assange,? Sir! u have to know what is the different between culture and political, western culture dosn't mean western values, western values belong to those nasty politician.

vincere xie 2 years ago
What do you mean by mentioning "western values"?? You mean, Wall Street is a kind of "western values" while the Main Street isn't? You mean, supporting the terrorists who are killing Chinese is while against any kind of terrorists isn't? You mean, distorting truth in China is while supporting China isn't? ? NO people will AGAINST western values though many people have different opinion. Wake up guys. Use your brains. Don't just repeat what CNNs are uttering.

295062 2 years ago
& hippo314 Will you? have the chance of expressing your opinion openly like this if you are in China? If you do that, your government will send you for re-education through labor

vincere xie 2 years ago
Well, if the Chinese government is doing something wrong, then it is because of my problem? I don't know what you mean. You want to laugh at the Chinese people because you think that they have a bad government or you want to show how better you are? Sorry, I couldn't see the connection between the government and your brain. You can be an idiot and? cannot distinguish truths and lies no matter what kind of government you have.

hippo314 2 years ago
re-education through labor? lol I am so scare, who tell u? that? go to China, see the truth of Chinese life, Chinese government dosn't has times to put u in labor camp, I did said alot of bullshit to Chinese government stupid foreign policy in public occasion in China, same as alot of young Chinese generation did, but where is the labor camp for us? I need to lost weight, damn I am eating the Prizza in Shanghai now.

Jian Sun 2 years ago
You don't need to say an insulting word to insult someone. Use your brain.? Does Mr. Sadeghi truely want to congratulate Chinese people or want to bring in this camera to make a video so that people could laugh at this Chinese official? Use your brain. At least it is not acceptable in Chinese culture to humiliate someone while giving flowers, maybe it is fine in your western master's culture.

wujianguojlu 2 years ago
Bahram Sadeghi is a? fucking son of bitch

mingursurshar 2 years ago
Yes, there there could be lots of people who demise the Chinese progress. As you know people hate those who are succesful, but? you should also know that there is foothold to where those haters could stand their ground against the demise of China... So i feel Chinese people should work on getting rid of the foothold by working for human rights and promoting peace. So that Chinese people can one day proudly say ' we have Human rights'.

Sam Wang 2 years ago
I would say if western people promot their "peace" like this, there will not be peace in this world. This guy insulted chinese ambassador and certainly? he insulted chinese people.

mingursurshar 2 years ago
To the supporters of the Chinese government: Seriously, do you think money and power is worth abusing Human rights?? Think about it. We are not here to shame the Chinese people just to the fact that we dislike them. Personally, i love the Chinese people as i feel they have a very rich culture and tradition. Due to that i feel they deserve basic human rights such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion and the freedom to present ones though withouth being persecuted.

vincere xie 2 years ago
Supporting Chinese doesn't mean supporting Chinese government. Last year in the Xinjiang Riot, I didn't see the western world and the muslim world care too? much about the Chinese people who were killed. Yes, we should have human rights and we really appreciate the people who really care about us. But we reject those people who pretend to love us but actually do lots of evil things to against the Chinese people in the name of fighting against the Chinese government.

hippo314 2 years ago
Freedom of speech !!!! look at what those fraking western countries did to Wikileaks owner ! freedom of speech!!!! western countries government are hypocrite, when they face real freedom of speech, they kill it , they arrest the? people, they are more terrible than China.

mingursurshar 2 years ago
? so does that mean Chinese government should act the same or worse? anyways i don't think the owner of wikileaks is killed... also what happened could be in other countries beside the U.S where they have different government system...

hippo314 2 years ago
kill it which dosn't mean kill him, it means freedom of speech, i am telling you the truth here, the guy in this video, ask Bahram Sadeghi go to US embassy, ask American diplomats why American wants to kill and arrest wikileaks owner ? 1? thing i am so sure, Bahram Sadeghi will been beaten like hell or he never has chance get into American Embassy, because he looks like Iranian, lol

hippo314 2 years ago
look at what those western government did to China, they are not? real Care about Chinese, all we know that they care about how to mess up Chinese economic and their life, they don't want to see how rich we are, how powerful none-white controlled nation raise in Asia, Liu just a tool for them, look at wikileak ! how those faking trash treat wikileak owner then you realize Nobel Peace award is price of shit.

caboy808 2 years ago
I have to admit, first i was kinda pissed off when i heard about this vid, after wasting 4mins of my time watching the conversation just to get over my own curiosity, i'm relieved, this guy is a joke and aint no way he's representing the dutch? people. I'm no fan of the Chinese bureaucrats, but i think the ambassador demonstrated decency, hospitality and democratic courtesy in front of the camera. PS, the video is cut so needless to say watchers need to be cautioned.

vincere xie 2 years ago
看看这些视频(watch?v=yDD5waedS4I,wat-ch?v=dua5sa8j9a0,? watch?v=xH7RKh99yFQ, watch?v=STtKvS3NM18, watch?v=JXL9mxV49xo),看看这些恐怖分子去-年如何杀害中国人民的。一个丑陋的女人,在当时,非但没有谴责这-些和她同一个民族的恐 怖分子,却栽赃那些无辜的受害者,栽赃后来-控制场面的警察。这个女人被邀请参加了今年的诺贝尔和平奖颁奖仪-式!难道这就是他们所谓的和平?

vincere xie 2 years ago
Check the videos ( watch?v=yDD5waedS4I,watch?v=du-a5sa8j9a0, watch?v=xH7RKh99yFQ, watch?v=STtKvS3NM18
,? watch?v=JXL9mxV49xo ) . Check how the terrorist killed the Chinese people last year. An ugly woman at that time said nothing to condemn those terrorist because they belong to the same ethnic group. But she distorted the truth and condemn the people who were killed! And condemn the police who later came and control the riot! This ugly woman was invited to the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE event!

shlyt 2 years ago
it's "proud", not "pride". learn some English first? idiot.

Shiraya -R 2 years ago
haha priceless?

nettwizz 2 years ago
how did such a joker get into the embassy with just a? bunch of flowers?

tonyj427 2 years ago
为什么有些人总喜欢拿自己的一些标准作为普世之光呢!说是和平奖-是为了人权的努力。什么人权的努力,那些评诺贝尔奖的人有多少人-真正了解中 国,估计连汉字都不认识。贻笑大方!?

vincere xie 2 years ago
诺贝尔和平奖还颁发给了美国前副总统戈尔,说他为节省能源的努力-有助世界和平,我看还不如发给比尔盖茨,至少人家的努力和成就是-实实在在的。 诺贝尔和平奖实在是玷污了诺贝尔奖这个名称。?

Hanli1995 2 years ago
You? guys know the Chinese government pay people 50c per post to write comments supporting the Chinese government on the internet

vincere xie 2 years ago
You should also know that NED pay $0.05 per post to write comments against the Chinese government on the? internet

Hanli1995 2 years ago
Well I? didn't know that. Why would they want to do that?

tristartomtyz 2 years ago
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Ck Him 2 years ago
U'd better stfu until? u take a visit in China,tnx.

Hanli1995 2 years ago
Though I should of mentioned this earlier, I actually am Chinese and have been there multiple? times. I also have done quite a lot of study on chinese history

Jian Sun 2 years ago
Thank you Mr Sadeghi for being such a idiot. You successfully insult a Chinese official who has nothing to do with prison Mr Liu. He is not one of those who made the decision to? prison Mr Liu. You were like insulting a dog because you think his master is a bad guy.

wolftotemic 2 years ago
who the hell was this modafuka? a fuckin Mideast terrorist talkin? bullshit ...im originally good with Liu Xiaobo won the Nobel,but this video make me sick...

tsequeira2912 2 years ago
Hahaaahahahaaaahaaa?

Tomsever 2 years ago
Good idea, but poorly executed, also,the ambassador? doesnt look like a politian at all!

TheMightyGuri 2 years ago
FREEDOM for Liu Xiabao NOW!!!! ?

TheRealChina 2 years ago
FREE Liu ? Xiaobo !

melignantlove 2 years ago
fk this Dutch piece of shit who tries to take Nobel Prize as an insult
get the fk out of here
i mean that is just inappropriate especially in front of the Chinese Ambassado.
Mr? Liu, who comes up with Chinese Constitution, deserves to be blamed for
its like someone in Dutch who tries to take over the Dutch's government. so what is u,this Dutch piece of shit gonna have to say about that? hur????????????
Let the ambassador speak, dont freaking disturb his talking u idiot
i take this as an insul

xzhu73 2 years ago
I cannot understand why those people are? so happy that a guy supporting Iraq war got this Nobel prize for "PEACE". Some one may think the guy in this video as a "smart boy". In my view, he is nothing but another stupid victim of western propaganda, if he sincerely supports Mr. Liu.

wtatara 2 years ago
5 cents?

26p 2 years ago
what a rude? reporter

janatajay 2 years ago
cheap shot
losers ?

kelfy 2 years ago
Epic fail to Chinese ambassador.? Good job. BTW, I am Chinese... lol

TheMightyGuri 2 years ago
yes... sadeghi sounds very arabic and not russian huh??

bendIt1982 2 years ago
The people represented by this guy's ethnic? background might win Nobel peace price one day if they stop stoning their women to death and start eating pork as which are basic rights for humans.

EpicnessRepresent 2 years ago
What? a Dick

jansenhsj 2 years ago
stupid nobel prize,obma can win this prize.?

match999 2 years ago
I? love this video. Have fun with Mr. Chang!

gunnerpatrick 2 years ago
Haha hilarious! The Chinese man looks like? a propaganda idiot!

Ananasulm 2 years ago
directly throw the flower in? his face

Xu Wang 2 years ago
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Really shame for Dutch people, by the was, it looks like a India guy,? assume that China give a price for Bin Laden for his brave, for his fighting against US and all your western countires, its seem cooooool from our point of view.

Xu Wang 2 years ago
Really shame for Dutch people, by the was, it looks like a India guy, assume that? China give a price for Bin Laden for his brave, for his fighting against US and all your western countires, its seem cooooool from our point of view.

wilsonxxxxx 2 years ago
why i found this? video funny.. lol

miwangtianya 2 years ago
fucking ass hole, what? do you want to show off?

dpayO2 2 years ago
说得很好!?

盾 刘 2 years ago
The Poem.....
What Do You Really Want from Us?
When we were the Sick Man of? Asia, we were called The Yellow Peril.
When we are billed to be the next Superpower, we are called The Threat.
When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open markets.
When we embrace Free Trade, You blame us for taking away your jobs.
When we were falling apart, You marched in your troops and wanted your fair share.

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qianlynch 2 years ago
真悲哀,对那这个sb这么客气干嘛,把它捆起来扔出去就完了!!-?

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asxholes 2 years ago
Bahram? Sadeghi is an Iranian living in Rottadam. As an outcast himself in the Netherlands, he represents the Dutch to insult the Chinese to accentuate a satire at the Dutch so that all anti-Noble Chinese will hate the Dutch and the Nordic Vikings. Try to get the humor, pls! Do you really think the Nobel Committee would appreciate his insult on the ordinary Chinese? Is it not a satire on the Prize as well? Think about it before you unleach your anger or euphoria!

2PACJ 2 years ago
A brown guy....that sums up all.? :)

mandickman1 2 years ago
Actually, the bureau Communist China enjoy the "fame" when foreigner puff them up.? So they allowed that guy enter.
If that guy showed that he support Chinese democracy and wanted Communist China to free Liu Xiao Bo, I don't think he could come near the embrassy!

jinshui56 2 years ago
hiahiahia...?

scorpioboy2k 2 years ago
This guy is retarded, he thinks he is funny by? being sarcastic and pulling a not-so-smart prank. Actually he is just another self centered dumb westerner. Nobel peace prize has become a political tool to sabatage China, its value has diminished in the eyes of Chinese people. I would like to see Julian Assange to win Nobel Peace Prize next year then. But I doubt the Nobel hypocrites will have the balls to do so.

hkgladon 2 years ago
No its value is still valid in the eyes of Chinese people who? have free mind and crave for the democracy

scorpioboy2k 2 years ago
Well I have all the free mind you want, live in Canada, western educated, voted in both federal and provincial elections in? the last 15 years. Let me tell you, democracy is a beautiful concept on paper, in real life, it never works that well. Besides general election (multi-party system) is one way to implement democracy, but NOT the only way to achieve democracy.

scorpioboy2k 2 years ago
Moreover, Liu's? act will be a crime in any country. Just try to make "08 declaration" in US to overthrew current US political system, and see what would happen to you. Liu is a convicted criminal in China, so for Nobel Committee to grant him the prize is a political intervention. Therefore the nature of that prize has changed. No respect for Nobel peace anymore. Even the biggest war criminal Obama can win it, what a joke.

rainlion0 2 years ago
from the day they gave the award to Obama, i? know peace award is practically a joke...why bother...

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oldhoneybee 2 years ago
Where in "Charter 08" does it say to overthrow the political system? The rights that he so gently asks for have always been enshrined in Chinese constitution but never actually carried out, e.g., the rights of free speech, of religious belief, of association, freedom? of press, etc.

mandickman1 2 years ago
thz? for dutch blessing!
Chinese will all remember your support for Chinese democracy and freedom!

PandoraMakanim 2 years ago
very well brother.....? those chinks should be punished

Yuehui Mu 2 years ago
@PandoraMakanim, you are a mother fucker.?

latiasandlatios1234 2 years ago
fukin? ass hole

latiasandlatios1234 2 years ago
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seinacava 2 years ago
, u should refer that dirty word to all the chinese people. ?

Bill Yang 2 years ago
Thank you, Mr. Bahram? Sadeghi.
You are famous in China.
中共像是一个输光了的赌徒,破罐破摔了. 中共现在已经和纳粹希特勒、苏共斯大林、前波兰及缅甸军政府一样-,因关押诺贝尔和平奖得主而被钉上历史的耻辱柱。

zhoutian01 2 years ago
诶呀妈呀,瞧你气的。。。。。?

rainlion0 2 years ago
please remember to follow your doctor's advices,? take your medicines on time.

latiasandlatios1234 2 years ago
Muslin people will be the majority of europ .?

t2fang 2 years ago
this? is stupid. if he wants to pull off a prank, at least make it funny.

sok2k 2 years ago
为中共俄杂割地党唱赞歌的,都是那些享卖国福的俄杂衙内。
这是黄俄开国元老的讲话:"我们中共服从联共"、"希望他们(俄-国人)给予我从头指示"。这是黄俄永远的光荣。?

CodyYes 2 years ago
Ha ha ha~ Look at their faces,? so funny~

7758775877587758 2 years ago
这位大使说话有理有气节,只不过跟一个垃圾讲话,垃圾根本就不会-换位思考,更不懂的己所不欲,勿施于人!?

7758775877587758 2 years ago
看来五毛当哪里都有。
里面的利己,外面的害人!
外面的原比里面的作恶多,而且数典忘祖!
这种东西不能称之为人!?

dolongchunfengzhou 2 years ago
So stupid. Congrats on Dutch to slaughter? 20,000 Indonesian, every single man, woman and Children on a island called Banda Islands.

dolongchunfengzhou 2 years ago
Fxxk? this dutch clown!

CodyYes 2 years ago
Fuck off, Chink~?

Gio Tibet 2 years ago
MERAVIGLIOSO!?

Citabria007 2 years ago
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Get out? of Tibet!

Citabria007 2 years ago
He got Boraked!? LOL :)

zhoma982 2 years ago
中国的什么解放军少将啊,大使啊,基本上都是猪头,这点临场处理-问题的能力都没有,呵呵。?

asxholes 2 years ago
Oh, hi, Bahram! Congratulations! It's a big day for you, Mr. Sadeghi! You insulted Chinese diplomats on behalf of the Dutch people. The Nobel Committee is PRIDE of u! I'm sure, the next year's Nobel Prize will all be yours as a token of thanks. It will be an honor for you and also for all Iranians. No problem! Thank? you.

wendowsxplala 2 years ago
liu300 is just a tool of wester, like the russia? autor~~

uncontrolification 2 years ago
EVEN THIS MAN IS EMBARRASE AND HE DOESNT HAS GUT TO GIVE INTERVIEW::SHAME? CHINA::WHOLE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT COMMUNIST CRUEL YOUR POLICY::

uncontrolification 2 years ago
CHINESE GOV SHOULD FEEL? SHAME FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND EVEN THEIR OWN PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THEIR OWN GOV POLICY:: CHINA SHAME SHAME:: STOP KILLING TIBETAN ! RELEASE LIU ::SHAME SHAME::WHOLE WORLD ARE LOOKING ON YOU

luezihua 2 years ago
Do u know where tibet is exactly on the map?aha...?

Somai82 2 years ago
The Irony of an Iranian? representing the dutch people and condemning another country on human rights abuses. Fuck both their governments.

hailiangmei 2 years ago
A good lesson to all Chinese oversea offices. It is nice to be polite to local visitors but this also creates chance for those who like to abuse the trust. Image, what if there is a knife/bomb in those flowers. The? security should be definitely enhanced!
On the other hand, I have to admire the Iranian guy's creativity. Very original.

Gmmaverick 2 years ago
Instead of flowers, he should present some pot and? a couple prostitutes to better represent his country and the moral values he's so proud of ... =)

weiol 2 years ago
The bearded guy is really rude and? annoying!

zhmz888 2 years ago
such a nut!?

JennyFarley 2 years ago
thsi is? herleryes

randylui72 2 years ago
Fuxk the? communist dog, good job!

randylui72 2 years ago
十面埋伏
中共收皮!?

RapperChang 2 years ago
I'd like to see him pull that off in the Israeli embassy here in DC. He'll got his muslim ass kicked when he opens? his mouth

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able67 2 years ago
Trying to embarrass that? Chinese ambassador in the name of peace, is SPITEFUL.

MrLiuxiaobofan 2 years ago
a big slap on chinese? ambassador
, i love this video

Chapboy1989 2 years ago
i feel sorry? for the ambassador
he has leaked chinese top secrets LOL

laukinshing 2 years ago
串到呢XD
荷蘭佬好野?

Tsering Chhuki 2 years ago
fuck? china....!!!

kaitree1 2 years ago
An Arab? represent Dutch People ? WTF??

georgehua09 2 years ago
he is said to be an? iranian dissident, the crappy type that will surely make you throw up.

georgehua09 2 years ago
An Iranian is not an Arab, but a Persian, and he is not just any well-cultured Iranian you normally find in Iran, but a cockroach type roaming the streets of De Wallen. So? don't let him soil the image of Iranians in general, and he has nothing to do with Arabs.

kaitree1 2 years ago
Thanks for the clarification, I'll remember it..?

01082005 2 years ago
That's not? the main point

sittingduck02 2 years ago
From strictly a security perspective, the security @ Chinese embassy is weak at best. Had it been a US embassy, this man wouldn't last 20 seconds let alone the 5min video taping. But just think about it for a sec: a? smiling Arab with strange accent, carrying yellow flowers, seeking the ambassador......the guy wouldn't come close within 20 feet and the marines would've handled him in a very different way.

arthurmiller08 2 years ago
It only shows China is open even to trespassers. Who can venture into the US Embassy like that? US marines guard their embassies like maximum security prisons around the world. A man with a beard like? Bin Laden can never get into a US Embassay for sure. So this Iranian turncoat should be grateful to Chinese hospitality. If he had done the same thing to any US Embassy, he could have landed at Guantánamo Bay now.

Citabria007 2 years ago
The Chinese embassy are not? worried about bearded Muslims because they work with Pakistani terr0rists very closely. They are butt buddies.

janezbasher 2 years ago
"The Chinese Embassy IS..." Pls note the subject-verb agreement. You are getting racialistic, dude? That's not right. Pakistan is also victimized by terrorism, and I think China works with? Pakistan to fight terrorism. Your racialistic bias is misleading. Is Nobel Committee's decision based on similar charges? No, you are in effect discrediting the Prize which I hold to be sacrosanct. I support Liu's award, but don't like extremists exploiting and spoiling the cause he stands for.

guy4 2 years ago
give? 孔子和平獎to阿桑奇

luis chen 2 years ago
i? agree~~

Pak Yiu Yick 2 years ago
NO, don't? give that shit to him. He deserves a higher-degree prize.

alanbfung 2 years ago
同胞们试细想为什么我们国内只有反对刘晓波获奖的消息?
若他们想分裂我们中国..
缅甸民主运动领导人昂山素获奖即是代表想分裂缅甸?
为什么我们不能在网上搜索刘晓波三字?
这因我们没有言论自由网络被一些既得利益者操控着
言论自由新闻自言集会自由是现今普世应得权利
什么中国特色的社会主义是骗人的借口吧.
为什么我们上很多网也要翻墙? 因为言论正受政府控制着. 中国人民站起来吧!齐为中国民主进步努力!
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cheetahtwo 2 years ago
What a? self righteous clown, whose ego knows no bound.

dogsderek90 2 years ago
LMAO!!!! hell ya this guy has some balls...im glad someone is trying? to make a statement against such a shameful action. China should be proud of Liu Xiaobo for his accomplishment not throwing him in jail....

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
"U r trying 2 2 2 2 2 make an argument with me?" his excellency said.? LOL!!!

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
It is the most? creative video.

BritishDocumentaries 2 years ago
Not to be racist. But when an arabic man walks into an embassy, carrying flower and talking in a funny accent shouldn't people be? running and hiding?

hkgoldenfighter 2 years ago
說得太好了?

On Ki, Enki Li 2 years ago
不要再迫他了...XD?

Jason issober 2 years ago
bastard!?

hechujie 2 years ago
馆长真TM有鸭梨啊....? 难当

sok2k 2 years ago
The Communists? cannot be called "Chinese". They came to power by surrendering Chinese territory and killing Chinese people to satisfy their Russian "big boss" (quoted from Mao).
"We CCP obeys the Soviet Union, which is the commander in chief" --quotation from the head of the CCP delegation to Russian, Shaoqi Liu.

dutchsmileful 2 years ago
Stupid guy.? He definitely does NOT come from the Netherlands.Otherwise, he makes all dutch people feel shameful.

superkeizerlu 2 years ago
Bahram Sadeghi said i'm behalf of dutch people..lol...how? how can you behalf of dutch people? you are? not dutch, you are iranian, go back to your country and solve your own problem.

smiletogreet 2 years ago
Too funny ! A dutch donkey wants to cry in chinese embassy for xiaobo liu ! he really has no humor and pretend to be? one ! rediculous jerk !

thinkevd 2 years ago
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What a warm friend, Thank? you! As a Chinese young man, I donot think the Party can represent our people anymore , so ingnore theirs' B.S., listen to Chinese people which is cheering。

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superkeizerlu 2 years ago
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TO Bahram Sadeghi :
FOR YOUR VERY AGGRESSIVE WORDS ,I HAVE A GOOD TOPIC FOR YOU,THAT IS : RADICAL ISLAM IN THE NETHERLANDS. DON' T YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ON THIS TOPIC?
TO Dikla Zeidler
FOR YOUR VERY STUPID IDEA, I THINK YOU SHOULD REALIZE THIS THING FIRST, IF YOU STILL HAVE THIS KIND OF STUPID IDEA, THEN? YOU ARE EXACTLY A DUTCH, ACTUALLY YOU ARE.
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CONCLUSION
BOTH OF YOU ARE VERY NAIVE, JUST LIKE 2 CLOWNS

johnlafunk 2 years ago
I am glad that we have so many open minded Chinese people in here, not those idiot who loves the gov and lick their (beep) hole.
I believe we can change China in a peaceful way like Liu? Xiao Bo promoted! My brothers and sisters, we just need to hang in there.
And salute to this Ducth or Middle East or whatever, what he had done here is brave and respectable.

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
the dutch guy is said to have impersonated a Leiden Uni student in order to get into the embassy...i didn't watch the video very carefully...in this aspect he was not playing by the rules. but the whole thing made me laugh for quite a while...i just can't stop enjoying watching the expression of the poor, embarrassed ambassador...or, "embarrassador"? lol

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Ying Hu 2 years ago
两德统一后,那些当年在柏林墙开枪打死逃亡民众的士兵一样被判刑-了。?

a744372001 2 years ago
good job~!!!?

fredlockful 2 years ago
Dear CCCP, please don't cut him up & use him? for body parts like you have done to so many in the past:(

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
说得好,同胞。?

51674 2 years ago
l o l?

Tse Kyi 2 years ago
Congrats to liu Xibao. Day will come soon when all Chinese wakes up from their deep political slumber and hails this man for his indomitable human spirit. History? will repeat again. all former dissidents like Mandela, Sakharov, aan su kyi et al r heroes now.

john8888hk 2 years ago
1. All political criminals in China (and anywhere else of course) should be released.
2. The Nobel Peace Prize, however, is nothing more than a joke, with Obama, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Dalai Lama, Eisaku Sato, Kissinger etc as laureates.
3. Liu is a brave man with a warm heart and good intention, but? he advocates a neoliberal free market in China, and he thinks western colonialism is positive in helping civilisation in the third world.

changes2003 2 years ago
I? agree.

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Jason Xu 2 years ago
Do you know ulhisu, who you? are "debating" with is a real CHinese like me? You asked him "have you ever been to China"....... What an embarrassment.

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
This is not the problem of different? values between China and Western Countries. Human rights are the basic rights of humans. Human rights won't be restricted because of nationality. 五毛,請你閉嘴,回去舔老共的鞋底吧!

Ying Nam 2 years ago
條中東佬係到攪攪震。顧惦自己国家先至講啦。It seems that the problem in the middle east is far more? than that in China. Why came to cause trouble to the Chinaman here?

Jason Xu 2 years ago
I bet you have never read Liu' article so you cannot know what he meant. haha, because you are totally illiterate in Chinese. If you were a real CHinese, you wouldn't only post one sentence from his article whose meaning has been distorted by state-run media. ?

Jason Xu 2 years ago
It's such a basic common sense that government is not the country. The communist party of China overthrew ROC, the only legitimate government of CHina at that time, UN founding member and founded a new government. Your communist? master would slap on your face because you are saying they overthrowing of ROC is bullshit. lol It's really a big shame to have a compatriot like you.

Moljudo 2 years ago
Okay, now let me teach u some common sense. Government is not the country, but represents the country. Country is an abstract concept. Who represents the country if government deos not? U? Moron? When ROC was recognized by UN, it represented? China in the world; after PRC replaced ROC at UN, the sole legitimate government is henceforth PRC. Unless and unitl U the Moron overthrows PRC and replaces it at UN, PRC represents China. That's common sense. Get it, moron?

Jason Xu 2 years ago
不用理popotb,他就是疯子跟加拿大烂香蕉,汉字都不会写。-我跟着他很久了。他所谓的爱国就是自私。虽然他在加拿大长大,但-是依然被认为 是中国人,所以中国的一举一动都影响周围人对他的看-法。中国崛起给他带来虚荣。于是他每天在youtube上干事情-就是让别人承认中国多好多 好。只要看到说中国负面的就大写字母一-堆,加感叹号和f word要不然就跟你胡扯. 什么中国人喜欢网络审查啦,现在中国有5000年家庭文化积淀下-的自由啦。他连中国最基本的常识都没有,有一次别人说胡锦涛是邓-小平钦点的,他立刻跟 愤青一样激动说胡锦涛是人大选出来的,还信-誓旦旦地说"you can believe whatever you want, but the? truth is the truth". 我发言反驳他们的谬论,说中国人不是结果他说我是外国人装的。说-"I'm glad you hate China, but you will witness her unstoppable rise" 我看的逗笑喷了.我开始写汉字,结果他连汉字都不认得。就这样一-副德行,居然整天在youtube上说自己是骄傲的中国人

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
Many Chinese are sensible. 很多中國人是有理智的。Just a small couple of asshole are obeying? Communist Dogs because of advantages from them. 只有一小部份利用屁股思考的白痴崇拜共匪/共產黨走狗,原因是他-們會獲得很多利益。

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
他們亦有可能會是共產黨的既得利益集團。?

zjaybbs 2 years ago
也许popotb是生长在国外的烂香蕉,你是啥啊? 生长在国内的花生皮?中国的政治是要中国人自己来改变的,你以为-西方只是对待共产党啊? 西方是想让整个中国变成第2个印度, 把中国弄七零八碎。 因为中国过去几千年来一直是地球上头号强国,按照现在的发展速度-,不久就会恢复以前的实力。 这是对西方最大的威胁,也是他们不能容忍的。
就你个SB,帮着外人打你娘,你不是2B你是啥。 中国问题是多多, 西方就完美了? 难道你的眼瞎了看不到中国进来的成就吗?你想中国变怎样,像刘疯-子说的是的, 给西方当300年的狗奴才吗?你不是贱人你是啥,你娘 真应该把你给回炉了再来过。
人家popotb不会汉字,但懂得啥是对的,啥是不对的。 你懂汉字, 你就这水平?? 连苍蝇都不如。

Jason Xu 2 years ago
懒得和你争。自己去看看popoTb 可笑到什么程度再来发言。我一直在批判popoTb,你哪只眼睛-看到我说什么西方完美了??

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
五毛回去舔老共的鞋底吧!Internet Spy please go home to lick your Chinese Communist boss' shoes! ?

jibbi4one 2 years ago
The Chinese public and the Chinese gov't are the only ones to solve? Chinese problems the west & the rest of the world should not meddle in China domestic political affairs.

pengweile1234 2 years ago
go screw? urself, u fucking cunt

clyt2010 2 years ago
What a nice proof of? educated manners! Bravo! It demaskes the core of your and the likes.

Jason Xu 2 years ago
@ulhisu @ThisBoyTV I'm Chinese, born and raised. Please just ignore popoTb. He is just a Canadian with Chinese origin. He can't even read Chinese. As a Chinese decedent, the rise of CHina could give him some? pride. Therefore, everything he does is to defend his false pride, or vanity. He must be a miserable loser in real life. He always made me laugh when he fabricates stories and prattle how China is. China has changed a lot and is still changing, but words from popoTb are nothing but lies.

clyt2010 2 years ago
One doesn't need to be Chinese to understand Human Rights and to call for them. You might understand something but, obviously, not the essentialities. You remain narrow minded. Your readiness to judge others who do not share your values (!) in such a mean way shows that you are heated beyond? rational controll. What a pity!

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
哈哈 其實我是中國人啊 跟你一樣。。。本來是看著一樓popotb跟五毛似的就用英語跟-他辯了幾句 沒想到這麼2。。。他第二次說have you ever been to china? 我就樂壞了 乾脆也不顯示身份了 就用英語說下去。這麼說還好我沒用漢語 否則他都不懂了。還說是香港人 我當時就思密達了 敢情我一個中共統治下的前共青團員在這裡批判中共,他一個香港人-卻為中共辯護。。。這個世界真是太奇妙了。原來是這麼個情況。

Jason Xu 2 years ago
请你告诉他你是土生土长的中国人。用英汉双语。我很想看看他有什-么反应。他之前就跟我说过同样的话,什么"have you ever been to CHina"等等。这已经至少是第二次了。我很想看看他到底会怎-么反应。他第一次说我是外国人装的,应为我英语太好了。然后我开-始写汉语,他一开始沉 默,然后说外国人也会写汉字。结果我上传了-一个视频跟他说我是中国人,他说那个视频里的人不是我。之后他就-骂骂咧咧那什么MF, Dumb ass全出来了,然后我给他留言,他就装死人 。我很想看看这是不是他一贯的套路。哈哈?

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
呵呵 我看你在下边儿已经跟他说了 但算了吧 我真是懒得跟他再说了 连正常的逻辑思维都没有 除了大写字母感叹号骂人之外就是一腔鸡血了。何必呢。?

Jason Xu 2 years ago
其实看他表演仅仅是为了好玩。就像看凤姐,芙蓉姐姐一样。?

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
哎呀? 还说凤姐呢 据说人家都去美国当民运分子申请政治避难了 开始笑她啥 结果我们傻眼了 她一直在下很大的一盘棋!

Jason Xu 2 years ago
凤姐和芙蓉能搞这么大,幕后必定有推手。就一个重庆来的乡下姑娘-想搞出这种气候,没有推手怎么可能?凤姐发传单也不是一两天了,-为什么偏偏前 一段时间突然爆红?我好真的很好奇凤姐传奇要怎么收-场哟。
ps:话说我还真希望你能回复他,告诉他你是中国人。本人还真有-这种看凤姐一类人物的morbid? 的好奇。呵呵。我给他留言的杀伤力估计没有你的大。

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
我能怎么杀伤啊? 跟他用汉语理论 他又不懂 跟他用英语 他又说我是西方人 除非视频语聊啥的 我犯得着么 再说了 人家有人家的言论自由 哪怕是2B的言论 这个世界上的人你是改变不完的。。。
ps. 你在何方 不在墙内吧

herifuzhenguan2 2 years ago
我在美國讀書。你呢??

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
我在鸟西兰,也在读书。。。还是米国好。。。这儿太偏远了?

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Jason Xu 2 years ago
嗨,美國壓力太大了。有的時候真想學習佛門中人,撒手不幹算了。-但是一覺睡醒又覺得放不下。貪念作祟啊?

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
多跟大和尚学学淡定的心? 哈哈

luis chen 2 years ago
嚷你个球球~怒了吧~哇咔咔~翻你个球球~我在spain~~l-oool,不满长城咋啦~哇咔咔,美国2B还不是搞维基解密lo-ool,景德 镇就要灭你,咋啦~~怒了~回你俄罗斯的老家吧~哈-哈~球球害怕咯~~?

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
Oh my dear, there are lots of Internet Spy that hired by China government. It was a shame of Chinese people! Why our human rights needs the Westerners to fight? for us?

wildbizzar 2 years ago
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It's too rude for that Dutch man to speak in that way. If you wanna protest, be a manned man and protest in a meaningful way. Sarcasm doesn't do? any good.

wildbizzar 2 years ago
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It's too rude to speak in that way. If you wanna? protest, be a manned man and protest in a meaningful way. Sarcasm doesn't do any good.

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lgzhdb 2 years ago
people living in the west didn't understand the Chinese history, even they had forgot the history during this 100 years,
the west have Aggressed and bullyed China in the past 100 years,and take lots of Disaster to china.....we can see at that time,why west didn't talk the human? right to China???? , the war kill lots of chinese pelple's life, y the west didn't save the life??
we also hope that, the west should understand what is" peace"???and the price is belong to the peace people.

alvincyt 2 years ago
You are the man,? salute!!!

WOOFAS Wong 2 years ago
Whoever is living in Mainland China, broke through the Great Firewall of China and watched this clip AT LEAST proves that? they DISAGREE with the internet censorship of the Chinese Communists
所有身於中國, 而又通過翻牆離睇呢段片既人, 已經證明自己至少不滿中國共產黨既網絡封鎖...
I <3 尋釁滋事

ThereGmusic 2 years ago
Mainland china gov is harsh ,? unhuman .
We Hongkonger , are very proud of our freedom of speech :) though we are currently governed by the Chinese gov as well but as a Special Administrative Gov
香港人就讚個好啦

khc127 2 years ago
I m? not on any side regarding the nobel prize but the Chinese ambassador has clearly shown a high degree of patience and politeness while the guy with flowers keeps pushing it & interupting.

Justin Wong 2 years ago
Even if you? are not interested into the politics, the politics will be interested in and get to you.

troytmkh 2 years ago
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People's Republic of China.? <3

uncontrolification 2 years ago
HA HA VERY EMBARRASING AND SARCASTIC CONGRA′TUALATION: SHAME SHAME CHINA GOV FOR THEIR CRUEL POLITICS? AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO TIBETAN PEOPLE

dxxydxxy 2 years ago
The only thing I learn from this clip is that Chinese Ambassador and many Chinese people have obviously overestimated those western people's quality so they look surprised when this bullshit is really? happening. The recommendation is kicking those uneducated dumb asses out with no hesitate

Jarod Calvino 2 years ago
这是谁让他进来的? lmao~~~~~

advisory0401 2 years ago
解體中共?

otyarzotm 2 years ago
lol im no fan of communism but sand nigga kept interrupting the chinese ambassador and kept pushing even when the ambassador said he really didnt want to discuss it and? didnt want to continue
has it occured to sand nigga that if he was so pro-peace that the chinese also have the freedom to not want to comment

soulreplenished 2 years ago
wow fucking terrorist, don't know anything about China's internal? affairs.

aflamevs2005 2 years ago
okay first, racist and second he's pretending? he doesn't know anything about china's internal affairs so he can step on some toes and make it really awkward for the ambassador and make him scramble for things to say... it's pretty hilarious if you actually understood the joke -.-

f3dboys 2 years ago
推倒美帝主义?

anthooonyng 2 years ago
ON9仔
你唔翻牆你上撚到YOUTUBE?
去慢慢賴你個共產黨屎忽啦?

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
成班五毛侮辱中國人嘅智慧?

siuyeray 2 years ago
又可能人地老豆响國家拎左唔少油水俾呢條仆街仔出國讀書都唔定,-既然咁愛國就死返去祖國既懷抱囉屌~?

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
中共更加帝國主義!不順從自己意願的國家就要在貿易上為難別國!-?

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
更正:就要在貿易上被為難!?

f3dboys 2 years ago
你在骂自己吧,还大陆大陆的,你打的不是简体中文吗?

f3dboys 2 years ago
你个垃圾,有种不打简体中文,扑你个大街~。?

shouhei00 2 years ago
OMG I want to make Chinese? subtitle
Good Job the brave!!

PWRF2 2 years ago
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? it's? a big day for Chinese people.

PWRF2 2 years ago
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Well done!? it's a big day for Chinese? people.

cloudanu 2 years ago
How did that suicide bomber get? through security?

stphantom 2 years ago
ignorance? western shit...

Pak Yiu Yick 2 years ago
32 50-Cent-Party? Members on YouTube. Go fuck yourself.

auyeungd 2 years ago
right on,? bro!

0orangepeel0 2 years ago
This sand nigger will be thrown into Gitmo if he tries? to approach the American Embassy. It just goes to show that the Chinese still have the passion to accommodate free speech with a jerk like him.

kwongchunhung 2 years ago
"the way? u treat ppl is great".......lol

kenhlau 2 years ago
Yes, it's a? big day for Chinese people.
人家專情拿花來道賀,真的是.....
怎樣都給人家倒杯茶嘛,還說什麼外交部門。

kenhlau 2 years ago
人家專程拿花來道賀?

wic223 2 years ago
good? job and well done from Hong Kong!

ruczhaokai 2 years ago
Your intention is good, but the way you talk and express is really humiliating, u behaved like a fucking asshole clown treating the interviewee as an idiot or criminal. come on, he is not the decision maker or representative of? Chinese government.

MaddieLucyPage 2 years ago
I thought the whole point of an Ambassador? was to represent their respective government?

auyeungd 2 years ago
If you think they're bad now, wait til they get their US passport.? Those guys are the real scumbags

Citabria007 2 years ago
Ironically the Nobel committee is a far leftist arsewipes. And I don't care for the Chinese tyrants? either.
So I am really conflicted in which of these two aresewupes are the biggest arsewipes!
LOL :)

Citabria007 2 years ago
Tibet is a Dharmic country.
China is adharmic.? A Sinful state!

auyeungd 2 years ago
those shameless 50-cent gangs are something else, aren't? they?

Citabria007 2 years ago
Ha Ha HAaaa! LOVE IT! Go Chinese? People! ROFLMAO!

Ethan Huang 2 years ago
Gee,thats embarrassing.?

able67 2 years ago
Trying to embarrass that Chinese ambassador in the name of peace is? SPITEFUL.

filimlirim 2 years ago
Shame for Chinese! If? they know about shame.

auyeungd 2 years ago
Chinese know shame, but the PRC government doesn't.?

Sam Lau 2 years ago
看牠皮笑肉不笑的壓抑樣,不折不扣的披著人皮的共產妖獸!?

Sam Lau 2 years ago
沒有共慘黨就沒有劉曉波!Free LXB?

BAYAUTOCAM 2 years ago
I have a dream that one day all Chinese people are able to access the internet with out any barrier.?

auyeungd 2 years ago
I am sure some? software geek will come up with stuff that's unblockable very soon.

Sam Lau 2 years ago
大陸共狗,人人喊打!?

Haoran Qi 2 years ago
well...Bahram? Sadeghi & Dikla Zeidler are just 2 stupid ignorant son of bitches.

georgehua09 2 years ago
hahaha...lo-l! so? see, it's just copy and paste. what's more, what does that have anything to do with your defeat anyway? as far as i can see, nothing can change the fact that you have? been fucked up big time! wanna continue to show off your rudenees? go ahead!

vincere xie 2 years ago
baltika128 is just a SOB. There is no need for us to reply? him. Just let him dance himself.

georgehua09 2 years ago
yes, i agree. appreciate all your? points. thanks.

Xiongjie2003 2 years ago
well, we? just live in our way. shouldnt care the other voice course we are dictatorship. Just like USA starts the war, doesnt care the dissident voice even they are proud democratic country.

tontyoutoure 2 years ago
太搞笑了,太搞笑了……?

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vincere xie 2 years ago
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I left a message on DiklaZeidler's main? page several hours ago. Now it disappeared. Freedom of Speech! You asked for freedom of speech but you just simply delete my message and only leave those positive messages. 几小时前在DiklaZeidler主页上留了言,结果被删掉了--。DiklaZeidler'一边要求言论自由一边简简单单地-删掉-我的留言,仅留 下那些对他/她的溢美之词。?

georgehua09 2 years ago
don't take him? seriously. he is not for freedom of speech. as a clownish crap, he is out for publicity so that he has sth to brag about, and incidentally, reap some claps and slaps.

Lei Wang 2 years ago
This Dutch can't be more rude and stupid. He proved nothing by behaving like a clown but being rude like an A-hole. He took advantage of the Chinese guy's hospitality. Had? the Chinese ambassador not treated him too well, a lot more than this guy deserve, this jerk would have got the humiliation he deserves. I don't know Liu, but to openly humiliating the Chinese legal system as the Peace prize committee just did does not help the Chinese people. Maybe the committee did not care.

georgehua09 2 years ago
fully agree with you.? couldn't have said better! thanks.

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ljlhy 2 years ago
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at least there is a nobel prize for Chinese human rights. dare anyone do that in Iran or Middle East countries? where they kill women just beacause they have pre-marriage sex. lol. these stupid people, what you? can do about them?

ljlhy 2 years ago
at least there is a nobel prize for Chinese human rights. dare anyone do that in? Iran or Middle East countries? where they kill women just beacause they have pre-marriage sex. lol. these stupid people, what you can do about them?

gjtang 2 years ago
@baltika28 what the fuck are you? I thought i fucked you to completely numb (of cause you needed 'work' on more masturbation) and you now came back and play a whore again.
Get fucked away, you clown. Idiot like you played first a Russian bitch fucked badly by Chinese and then a English teacher enjoying mental masturbation and? then a shit with 'American passport'. Don't you know what shame is?

Ryan Bos 2 years ago
if you want people to understand you as you are replying on a English spoken vid you could speak English? you know, just sayin'

marythinks 2 years ago
as a chinese i'm? glad that he's not speaking english here
just another hater speaking crap......

UyghurLife 2 years ago
chinese are in control of Tibet and Eastern Turkistan, Its hell over where they are. If they were to give back their independence. China would? decrease on the map. This video is a joke. That liu guy is an asshole. So please i know im going to get alot of hate comments replying to this. But im speaking the truth. And if you replu back to this, i wont waste my time. CYA . WOULD WANNA BE CHINESE. lol

vincere xie 2 years ago
Most of the Uyghur people only live around a small area in the southern part of Xinjiang, but some Uyghurs want to control the whole Xinjiang. They pay no attention to the truth that the northern part of Xinjiang is never ruled by the Uyghur people. Long time ago, it is an area mainly occupied by the Mongolians? and now by many different groups. Xinjiang is totally different from Tibet.

filimlirim 2 years ago
You are just Chinese mind, shameless, Liu Shao bo said if Chinese to reform need 300 years depended some other country. This is true, because Chinese less conscience, human nature, and justice feeling. We have a ideom: "For dishonorable mouse depot? door is always opening" , Chinese just like that! For Chinese any brezin lie also acceptable!

auyeungd 2 years ago
China, with its current boundary, is basically ungovernable. It behooves China to end their occupation of Tibet and East Turkestan, regardless of who used to live there for how long. They should spin? off Inner Mongolia, Hong Kong, and Macau as well.

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
You are an asshole, SURELY! You even don't care about the weaknesses in China! Like the children that got kidney sickness after drinking the poison milk in 2008!? They need democracy to redress themselves! I totally support and proud of Liu Xiaobo that he was awarded for the Nobel Peace Prize this year!

clarence8520141 2 years ago
Irrelevant! When cornered, u'r just trying to catch at any straw.? Pathetic!

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Leave him alone. As I said,? there's no need to continue to poke fun at this lunatic. We've got enough laugh already. His own raving speaks for itself as everybody can see. Ciao!

clarence8520141 2 years ago
Of course, I know. Hard kicks in the butts made him yell out his guts.? That's where I can sit back and watch the antics of an out-of-control crap.

clarence8520141 2 years ago
Who is changing the subject again? Hahaha...lol! It all shows that u'v been driven out of senses! Hope u won't get nightmares tonight, poor guy!?

xixi82haha 2 years ago
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liu xiaobo will be greater than obama because he killed less irag people....?

xixi82haha 2 years ago
liu xiaobo will be greater than obama because he killed less irag? people....

luis chen 2 years ago
您伟大的俄罗斯会惭愧的loool?

e1in9 2 years ago
He's clearly all too happy to being able to play the morally high person here, instead of his common experience of Dutch people thinking his own country is? morally low (duh) and his beard is creepy.

luis chen 2 years ago
loool请问你是哪国的狗啊??

xixi82haha 2 years ago
liu xiaobo? will be greater than obama because he killed less irag people....

luis chen 2 years ago
hi~SB狗~看你留言需要翻墙么~looool,joder!-?

kencyliu 2 years ago
It was? not a big day for Chinese people, it was a sad day instead. 如果中國是自由的話,根本不會產生劉曉波這樣的人物。

clarence8520141 2 years ago
I don't think he changed topics. His observation is very clear: there's no? need to bicker with u anymore. Ur English knowledge is sorely inadequate. Kindness is an abstract noun. U don't have to make it plural, and as such, his subject-verb agreement is perfect. By picking at perfect English, U cut a poor figure urself. Everybody can see that. And by using foul language, u'r telling us that u'r losing out big time! Poor thing! Hope u'll be able to fall asleep tonight! Sweet dreams!

Elxat830 2 years ago
this is the best video i ever see........hahahahahahah? jalap hittay

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
A...hahaha...Iol! No need for further explanation. Everybody can see how poor you? are at language. Let me repeat: you are what you say and what you write! Join a language program before you get too old!

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Hahahaha...you made me laugh again, moron! Is "kindness" singular or? plural? Go figure!

gjtang 2 years ago
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@baltika128
You seriously remind me some guy pretends? to be girl online trying to? hook up another man and get fuck.

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gjtang 2 years ago
Man, I enjoy fucking filthy SOBs like you so much I won't charge the chinese govn't nothing for doing that.
Oops, I think I should have said instead "won't charge ** anything" . Sorry for causing confusion to moron like you. ?

gjtang 2 years ago
Don't? work too hard by masturbating yourself.
I think I made some errors here and there but I know you've get it.

lf2god2003 2 years ago
tbh,? ppl in Hong Kong love this vid very much

gjtang 2 years ago
You remind me some guy pretend to be? girl online trying to hook another man and get fuck.

ten lha 2 years ago
Great job!
Fuck? the communist CHina!
Free Tibet!
Bedankt Bahram Sadeghi en Dikla Zeidler

gjtang 2 years ago
What you think you are? A hybrid SOB without identity? Or a 4-grade English teacher who likes? mental masturbate.
You just act like a moron. And you should have known this.
Any error here? Say something funny. Make me laugh.

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gjtang 2 years ago
回复此视频...
BTW, don't fuck our language by using it. You hybrid SOB.
Again I hope this is grammatically? correct so you won't misunderstand a bit.

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michaelgrafman 2 years ago
i believe they just want to? show the reality, not to embarass chinese

gjtang 2 years ago
It seems you've been? fucked really badly by a Chinese.
I hope I said this grammatically correctly so you moron can understand this

gjtang 2 years ago
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Is there anybody claims he loves his mother-country and meanwhile tolerates another folk saying the country should? be colonized for 300 years?
But that might be the reason why this guy? is granted this "peace prize". And with the same logic, they should have given Wang Jingwei the same prize.

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TwentyFive2Life 2 years ago
CLASSIC REAL? LIFE TROLLING 10/10

webbombtest 2 years ago
25? chinese watched this video

upstalsboom 2 years ago
I have no? opinion about the peace prize itself, but this video clip is embarrassing.
Mr. Sadeghi desperately tries to provoke the ambassador, who instead remains calm. The way Sadeghi approaches the Chinese, as if they were a bunch of imbeciles, without proper understanding of English. Check again the childish English he uses on purpose, and the imitating bowing and gestures.
How about complaining about human rights at the embassy of the country of your own roots, Iran...?

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Yeah, I fully agree. The Chinese diplomats are hospitable, polite, nice and gentle,? but their kindness seems to be abused by this con artist, you say, an Iranian? OMG! Despicable, indeed! How can he try to tarnish the Dutch image by claiming to be "on behalf of the Dutch people?" Gross indeed!

dpayO2 2 years ago
He may well be complaining about human? rights in Iran, how do you know what he thinks? This is just a candid interview with the ambassador to see his views on a human rights injustice, and he showed his true colours by saying "We don't want anyone else to tell us what to do."

daz Studio 2 years ago
Why should us in the west be telling the Chinese how to run their country, they have come a long way in a short time. We should be congratulating them on their economic success. They may be run by a party called the Communist party but that is? just a name that no longer fits.

dpayO2 2 years ago
"We in the west" aren't telling them how to run things. The human right to express ones views without being put in jail is worldwide, I don't care what country you are from. Assange should get the prize next year for exposing that stuff on Wikileaks. If someone denies me freedom of speech, that's a human rights? violation.

Ryan Bos 2 years ago
well i don't think he appreciates the undemocratic situation in Iran as he wants to tell through this vid about the undemocratic situation in China although Iran and China are of course are? in very different situations

gyrad 2 years ago
This was an interesting and ingenious? way to approach the ambassador himself. Liu Xiaobo is in prison for writing up a petition calling for more human rights for the people of China, how is that a crime that deserves 11 years in prison? The Chinese government is just too insecure, and it has every reason to be since the people are now starting to call for human rights and change.

ppisonqq 2 years ago
GDDD JOBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK THE Communist
共狗!?

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Hahaha.....what did I say?? You are what you say and what you write! Go figure!

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
Go figure is right expression. Anyway,? I never like Russians, if it is not because of them, we will never live under communist's rule....... I do not like fifty cents either....!!Bye. SO funny!!!!!

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
I wish I can wait and see? more fun, but I have to say bye bye to angry fifty cents and the russian (maybe an imposter) , whatever! The video is a piece of work. I always like my muslim and arabic friends, it made my day complete. Gonna to hit the bed 1:45 beijing time now!!!

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
So what's wrong with that? You need free English lessons from me? You are what you say and what you write. Have you ever heard "We are what we eat?"? Do you see the difference between "what" and "who." Go figure. If you wish to take English lessons from me, at least you need to apply first.

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
I guess Chinese Embassies around world is going to have flowerphobia now! Lol.Chinese government always boast they are people's government. Their? radio staion is people's radio staion. So does it for TV station. Mr. Liu asked one person one vote direct election. They put him behind bar. They say gave the prize to Liu is against the will of people in China, it is absurd, please check twitter, you will see so many Liu's supporters in China!!

daz Studio 2 years ago
he also wanted China to be colonised for 300? years. If anyone tried this in the west I don't think they would get a prize.

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
You are not in the position to judge anything, imposter! You may remain silent, but whatever you? write will only prove what you are.

oberstwilck 2 years ago
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Just wait and you? will get banned, idiot.

oberstwilck 2 years ago
I do not need to use Вы to show respect to someone who does not deserve respect.
Stop impersonating as a Russian, the bullshit you posted here damages Russian image for some unknowing Chinese people, which might not matter to you as you are from Taiwan.? I have already reported to the Youtube Team.

einsamaberfrei 2 years ago
@vincerexie I guess you might have been brainwashed by Chinese media in the past. What you might not know from? chinese newspapers is that communist has killed a lot of Uighur people and suppressed their freedom of religion as well as damaging their living environment.

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Your diction has betrayed yourself. Only some pro-independence? Taiwanese love to use "大陆X." Do you detect anything like that in my postings? That's the difference, see?

oberstwilck 2 years ago
Now there is this guy imposing as a? Russian, saying shit about China and telling a Russian that his Russian language skill is not up to standard? What a fucking joke. I am going to report you now.

oberstwilck 2 years ago
сволочь, ты же из Тайваня.?

oberstwilck 2 years ago
ну и что? я думаю, что ты на русском совсем не можешь писать. 'Парень из К.града' - это плохая грамматика.
а я не из китая, ты можешь продолжат с? твоего диотством. Но если скажиш, что ты Русский, пойдешь к аду.

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Well said! Hit the nail in the head! That Taiwanese imposter won't succeed in setting off? a fight against Russians.

Pushkin62 2 years ago
I could sense that the Chinese Ambassador was feeling? very ill at ease throughout the whole conversation.

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
But given the abruptness in the situation, he is okay. I don't even think Obama could have done any better when confronted with a con artist all of a sudden. The con artist is? well prepared, but the ambassador is not. If a con artist had descended on me all of a sudden, I could have shoveled him upside down. On the whole, the ambassador is good-humored.

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
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To: Lancelotzly: You'd have said? "Pissme No Prize." innit? , it seems you are smarter than? this ambassdor in video, why don't commie chose you as an ambassdor? It is? already the funniest I have seen in years. Thank you for coming on board to put more spices in it!!!

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Now I'm convinced, you are a? Taiwanese imposter! Don't overdo it, dude!

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
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@Lancelotzly You'd have said? "Pissme No Prize." , it seems you? are smarter than this ambassdor in video, why don't commie chose you as an ambassdor? It is already the funniest I have seen in years. Thank you for coming on board to put more spices in it!!!

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Hahaha....You are being exposed, lousy imposter! Imposter you are,? for sure. I never doubted it. But now as you rave on, your poor quality is showing itself. Get lost!

lf2god2003 2 years ago
so you live in hong kong? huh?
why are you watching vids on youtube? your GREAT government doesn't allow this you know?? :)

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Hehehe...You are making a lot of assumptions, huh? Which government is mine, do you? really need to know?

oberstwilck 2 years ago
hey if you are not russian then don't pretend to be one.
with name ий? and 'парень из калилинграда' on profile? you are a joke.

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Hehehe...Вы звучат все более и более, как паршивый? самозванец. Imposter вы, конечно. Я никогда не сомневался. Но сейчас, когда вы на рейв, ваше плохое качество проявляет себя. Проваливай!

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
我都要笑翻了!!Lmao!! Best video posted in 2010 I? have ever seen!!

ryanne lai 2 years ago
"yea it's unfortunate" at 2:27? hahahah great one

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
You are just trying to sow discord between Russians and? Chinese. Don't try to fool me! You imposter!

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
弱智大使真好玩,都语无伦次了Nobel peace? prize都变成了peace Nobel prize了。最后说是不和人家讨论了,还是回答问题了,象背书-那样!不过,大家要知道喔,中共大使馆可是个好地方,不仅经常有-美女养眼,还给我们华 侨什么香港的九十年代杂志看看呢!

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
So what? Given the abruptness in the situation, I'd have said "Pissme No Prize." When faced with an uninvited intruder, any name is? fair for the dirty money. If you often get entertained at the embassy, why should you bite the hand that feeds you then, ingrate?

Lancelotzly 2 years ago
Zeidler is just a con artist preying on unsuspecting people whose hospitality and? kindness are being abused. Under the circumstances with ubruptness factored in, I think the Chinese has managed it well with calm and courtesy. It is the con artist who is defecating himself.

Hanueberalles 2 years ago
We oppose the prize this year strongly, yet we donnot care it at all. Although the CCP government is reacting a little too much. Alas, for people who haven't experienced foreign cololnization, it will be truly hard for them to embrace it again. Cuihua, shang? suancai!

Naptu69 2 years ago
3:23 -" U R TRYING TO? MAKE A QUARREL WITH ME.." .lol Smart guy, u duped the chinese this time>

ryanne lai 2 years ago
a BIG thank you? from Hong Kong!!!!!!!!!!!

lf2god2003 2 years ago
a BIG thank? you from Hong Kong x2 !!!!!!

sasvhkp 2 years ago
Not all Chinese people (nationally and ethnically speaking)? are racist and ignorant like the commentators commissioned by the evil PRC Government below! THE DAMNABLE PRC GOVERNMENT OFFICALS CANNOT REPRESENT CHINESE PEOPLE! We believe in PEACE, LIBERTY, FREEDOM, AND DEMOCRACY! DAMN THE AUTHORITARIAN PRC GOVERNMENT and HAIL TO LIU XIAOBO and NOBEL PEACE PRIZE! WE HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE NO SPEECH CRIMES, NO POLITICAL CRIMINALS, AND WE CAN ALL LIVE IN A PEACEFUL AND COOPERATIVE WORLD

vincere xie 2 years ago
如果你是黄种俄罗斯人,那还是多留意下光头党吧,祝你好运。?

Carlos Wong 2 years ago
The Dutch mean to sneer at communist? running dogs XD

Moljudo 2 years ago
But your reply has been suppressed. That's how this so-called freedom-lover treats freedom of speech. Shame? on this big beard!

sasvhkp 2 years ago
恭喜劉曉波獲獎!平反六四,追究屠城責任,釋放異見人士,結束一-黨專政,建立自由民主的中國!
恭喜刘晓波获奖!平反六四,追究屠城责任,释放异见人士,结束一-党专政,建立自由民主的中国!
Congratulations to Liu Xiaobo for having won the Nobel Peace Prize! Rehabilitate the 1989 pro-democracy movement! Demand accountability for the shootings during Tiananmen Square protests of 1989! Release all dissidents! End the one-party dictatorship! Build a democratic China and grant? liberties to every citizen!
睇住五毛黨收完錢響度跳老舞真係好很好笑!
五毛与党棍,你们还有良心吗,心中还有一点点道德良知吗?就甘心-做一条狗也不齿去做的事情!基本人权是普世价值,不是你们这些跳-梁小丑可以否 认的!

tonightfever 2 years ago
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A paid stupid? Dutch comedian. That's all.

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vincere xie 2 years ago
不讲理,只骂人,别说家人,恐怕你连自己的良心都对不起。?

Moljudo 2 years ago
You are not a joker, but a parrot. Do you have anything of your own to? say?

wifarm 2 years ago
相当给力!?

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Moljudo 2 years ago
You mean the "arrest"? of Assange?

Moljudo 2 years ago
You have to answer your own question. I never knew anything like being paid to kiss asses until you divulged this piece of your own experience. Of course you must be the expert. See what freedom of speech? means to some dude? Shame on you!

Tse Kyi 2 years ago
wow this is really good punch on chinese ambassador face, thanks for posting''?

vincere xie 2 years ago
热比娅这个老巫婆被邀请去参加了颁奖典礼,这个老巫婆究竟做了什-么,你们可以在youtube上搜"新疆7.5事件" 以及"xinjiang riot",再看看她的嘴脸。 这种人都能被邀请去参加以和平命名的典礼,我还能说什么好。他们-真的有考虑到中国人的感受??

Jakob Zheng 2 years ago
I LOVE U? DUTCH !
--------a chinese college student

t43700 2 years ago
Too bad being shamed isn't a paying job or China wouldn't need so many of? ours.

vincere xie 2 years ago
I wish that the guys who are so pride about this year's nobel peace prize to check the guys who were invited to the event. An ugly women of an organization full of lies was there!? Why the nobel committee neglects the blood of hundreds of Chinese people in Xinjiang last year? Didn't they realize that they invited a Chinese Osama? Shame on those guys. Their mouths are full of love to us Chinese people but their behavior shows everything!

aknw 2 years ago
May I? know who is that woman you are refering to?

vincere xie 2 years ago
Rabiye Qadir(热比娅). If you really want to know more about this woman, you can search "新疆 7 5 事件" and "Xinjiang Riot", but please try to watch more videos otherwise you cannot reach the truth since this woman were telling lies and gave no sympathy to the Chinese people who were killed during that riot. She just tried to distort the truth. I paid a lot of attention to that riot lat year and save most of the videos. I wish that one day people? in Mainland China can see the truth.

aknw 2 years ago
她也在嗎? 她在又跟諾獎委員會有甚麼關係?
新疆問題實在比和平獎更複雜. 簡單地說,? 她根本視維吾爾族為一個民族, 而非中華民族的一部份. "新疆"之名亦說明其曾經不為中國的一部份.
再者, 你認為這麼一個境外的女人有本事動員這麼多人出來反漢人嘛? 於部份維族人眼中, 漢族人根本就是外族. 如是者, 這是種族衝突, 與此一人何干? 又難道說衝突中只死了漢人, 維族人死得少嗎?

vincere xie 2 years ago
为什么要说英文呢? 如果英文不行, 完全可以说中文. If you cannot speak English well, why keep using? English? Why not just use Chinese? I just found that this guy is trying to show off his better English.

Tse Kyi 2 years ago
why he need? to speak chinese, he is not chinese. also english is not his mother language.

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vincere xie 2 years ago
I mean the ambassador. You should? be quiet and read more carefully.

Andrew Wang 2 years ago
Most of the chinese in mainland even don't know this news about Nobel peace prize 2010. Name of "Liu Xiao Bo" is a forbidden word in CCTV news.
F***? GFW
Awesome Dutch! People behind GFW love you!

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Sam Lau 2 years ago
看到紅色流氓的便秘相, 笑了!?

Kiu Adam 2 years ago
Nice work!? Free LXB!

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Sam Lau 2 years ago
好! 喜欢荷兰大胡子!!!?

bst03180 2 years ago
五毛無所不在? 哈哈哈哈

Sam Lau 2 years ago
Bravo!?

sakefygrc 2 years ago
ambassador大怒曰:跨!?

Zhang Hui 2 years ago
这个大胡子真实欠揍,一点基本礼貌都没有?

Christopher J. 2 years ago
毛新宇谈民办教师。。。
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dpayO2 2 years ago
"We don't don't need anybody else to tell us what to do." What does this mean? "We're Chinese and we're different? from everyone else." What a massive bell-end.

ailaoluo 2 years ago
大使被问的脸都抽筋了;便秘相。?

Sigmarcn 2 years ago
Clearly the Chinese government fucked you too hard, lol?

YYjun9527 2 years ago
越来越喜欢荷兰人~?

Sigmarcn 2 years ago
I think Julian Assange deserves the Nobel peace prize much more than Liu. Julian Assange is? the man who has courage to speak the truth and is now facing life threat. The Canadian president even said he would not be unpleased if Julian Assange got murdered. Clearly, if someone speak against the Chinese government, they probably end up in prison; but agaisnt the US government? They will end up dead.

hanficious 2 years ago
Assange? died? By the time he dies, Chinese approximately have human right I suppose.

Sigmarcn 2 years ago
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omg , shame of? those internet-worker for FBI and CIA for 50 dollar cent each thread. ?

Sigmarcn 2 years ago
Clearly if you said something which displeased the US government you would be hunted down by the Interpol and face threat to your? life. Example: leader of Wikileaks.

Sigmarcn 2 years ago
I feel sorry for some Dutch people who actually cheered that a prize was awarded to a? CRIMINAL. it's funny to see that criminals were the people they really liked.

gyrad 2 years ago
Please explain to me how Liu Xiaobo is a criminal?? For? wanting more rights for the Chinese people??? This is pathetic of the CCP.

SUKAPIZDETXBOCT 2 years ago
useless arab, like all? arabs.

Moljudo 2 years ago
This big beard is just an individual crap. Most Abrabs are gentlemen; they don't buy into No-peace Prize. But this bearded joker? is just one of the very few who have sold out their souls.

felix5234 2 years ago
荷蘭艾未未?

felix5234 2 years ago
何蘭艾未未?

felix5234 2 years ago
just like ai wei wei ?

zhoutian01 2 years ago
if i were the ambassador,? i would say: it up to u...
it changes nothing.

supportiraqnow 2 years ago
I am a Chinese citizen from China. I have to use the mehtod of hacker to get access to youtube, it proves how important human right is urgently needed in China. The? poor ambassdor! I do not especially hate CCp, but when I was outside of China, I was quite close to Chinese Embassy, they gave me all the HK anti-commie magzines from Chinese embassy to me to read. So they educated me well, I never believe their propoganda anymore since then.

duddenhill 2 years ago
I absolutely admire? you! I hope the Chinese government will change someday.

dijoe 2 years ago
you are? the man!

reaperhk 2 years ago
What a great Job!
But it is really? sad,
if he is a Chinese, they will just ignore him. (If in China, he will "disappear")

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wai hin fong 2 years ago
Why Chinese people can be impolitelike that ? Liu is just express himeself . He doesn't have any mistakes and should not be a offender. Can you imagine that when u say something that disatisfy the Chinese Government in the Internet , you will be send to prison next day ? I think if we don't? prompte the democray in China,you and i will be easily targeted.

lntawz 2 years ago
Shame on this embassador and? the Chinese government!

BBcarto 2 years ago
omg , shame of those internet-worker? from that country, each replys just cost 50cent

liyx 2 years ago
成堆五毛黨...收皮啦!?

liyx 2 years ago
the way you treat your people is great! Of course, the way commies treat us? chinese people is of cos great, no need for further explanation!

erainchen 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes
For most Chinese, Liu Xiaobo is quite infamous and treated as a betrayer to his home country - China. In one of his famous public talks, he begged western colonizers to occupy China and to rule China for at least another 300 years. I looked a few videoed talks of Liu and personally don't like him. He looks and sounds nerdy.
That is the real reason why western countries decided to give the prize for him? since Liu represents the interests of western countries, instead of China.

ashtrayjack 2 years ago
Even from this cut clip we still can? see how polite are the Chinese people. Compare with our foreign friend in this video it is easy to tell who has been brain washed by the media and government.

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ashtrayjack 2 years ago
回复此视频... I'm not saying that which government is good which is bad, because of course every government wants their people to believe in it, but people, especially western people should really understand that from the day you born your government was indoctrinating you how good is your government and how bad is other governments. For Chinese at least we can see the government is changing? is improving and it is still a young government compare with most of the western governments.

erainchen 2 years ago
Exactly, I found most Americans and other westerners have the same exactly unanimous opinions to China in their first response: dictator, communism, authority. Everybody everywhere talks about China in the? precisely same way and same style.
Are their minds formed with machine? But in China, everybody have different opinions about China and the world. Who on earth are brain-washed?

hanficious 2 years ago
@erainchen
Mate, let's play a game.
We now go out and merge into the crowd in a street and shout something out. I will shout "Julia Gillard sucks! Labor Party sucks!" And you do this? as well, okay? lololol
Don't tell me you are going to do exactly the same as I do. Name your PM Mr.Hu or Mr.Wen, and your ruling party, okay? lolololololol

ken lan 2 years ago
u are the hell on earth got brain-washed
here is 50cent
grap? it and stop barking

wielkimanitou 2 years ago
"Big day for chineese people? today" - fantastic :) That nobel prize is the greatest success of chineese penitentiary system :D

Micky Jackson 2 years ago
Maybe this guy could? win the 2011 Nobel Peace Price, and that is not a joke!

bladeliu 2 years ago
i like in the end the official said to his subordinates in Chinese: " who brought this guy in?" somebody get? fired~~

auyeungd 2 years ago
Moljudo and lazylucius, how? much is the PRC embassy thugs paying you jerkoffs to kiss their butt?

hanficious 2 years ago
Every comment 50 cents, approximately equal an egg in China.?

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conscarcdr 2 years ago
BTW I hope His? Excellency's Dutch is not as bad as his English.

didatita2006 2 years ago
JUST SAY"THX FOR FLOWER,U HAVE? A GOOD DAY
转身走人就好了,跟这种流氓费什么话,
这大使真TMD 大屎,

conscarcdr 2 years ago
LULZZZZZZZZZZZ! How can? you not love the Dutch?

adsbolero 2 years ago
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pure SB definitiv pure SB.? SB

adsbolero 2 years ago
pure SB definitiv pure SB.?

hanficious 2 years ago
WARNING: The ultra emergent border-accross-arrestment (跨國追捕) is? launched.

Moljudo 2 years ago
Judging from his feature, his beard, his uncouth manner, and his uncultured accent, he can't represent the Dutch. The Dutch I know of all speak perfect English with good manner. Maybe he bears a motive to? soil the image of the Dutch or sow discord between Chinese and the Dutch. Anyway, he is just a low-class joker, or a "jerk" as somebody else calls him.

hanficious 2 years ago
Dutch people speaks perfect? English wow... so Chinese people must have human rights.

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ken lan 2 years ago
if u know dutch speak perfect English.
u should not care and fight for 50cent.
anyway,? u are just a low-class joker, or a "jerk" as every normal guy calls u

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hanficious 2 years ago
7 Brain washed? Chinese people watched this video.

eastasiapower 2 years ago
消滅共匪!!!?

eastasiapower 2 years ago
操他妈,共匪?

forrest3189 2 years ago
Shame? for the producer, masked with flower and fake smile @ identity

Moljudo 2 years ago
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If I were the ambassador, I'd answer him like this: "It's a joke. I mean, this No-peace Prize is a joke, 'cause it is often awarded to jokers like Dalai Lama,? Obama and the like. Even you, as a joker trying to crack a joke with me right now may someday get the prize. But I don't really have time to join your comedy right now as I'm waiting for students to attend today's special event. So pls Joker, excuse us, pls." Then show him the door.

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StakeachanceZ 2 years ago
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Hey buddy, that's exactly what I thought. U r really geilivable,and? lucky China!!

devilconnie 2 years ago
joke?do u know that chinese government really? is a big joke!
I don't really have time to explain how FXXKING the chinese government is,but please,before comment,u must understand the story behind this "joke".
I m chinese,but shame on it.

StakeachanceZ 2 years ago
This guy is a jerk actually,and what he did won't change anything but put himself? in danger. He knows nothing about China, poor guy...

forourown 2 years ago
why didn't the dutch guy's? parents tell him that it's rude to cut in too many times...

forourown 2 years ago
? a polite ambassador, kept very good manner no matter how many time the dutch guy tried to purposely provoke him.

awtitmuss 2 years ago
Give? this a book by Salman Rushdie or a photo of Mohammed with an dirty bomb in his hat. Funniest video I have ever seen!

ali3da 2 years ago
China? must be free!

bjliuzheng 2 years ago
GOOD STUFF, the ambassador was a f__king idiot. shame? on Chinese government!

chung jar 2 years ago
中国驻荷兰大使张军亲自出来迎接啊。?

kickong 2 years ago
傻逼啊,这样就能混进去??

Michael Stevenson 2 years ago
哈哈哈哈哈,语无伦次、惊慌失措!@Michae1S?

jesuslovestibeans 2 years ago
Free Liu Xiaobo. Free Tibet. Free Chinese ! ?

ali3da 2 years ago
free? Chinese!

ithinklikehere 2 years ago
so fucking poor english. how is that guy take that position there? in the Embassy

MrBigflowercat 2 years ago
介个大胡子很搞笑嘛,哈哈哈哈?

holyzch 2 years ago
成心捣乱的?

dong jiang 2 years ago
顶 I? am @cosbeta

frick jifang 2 years ago
大赞,You're? going to argu with me?

wrlqwe 2 years ago
haha?

frick jifang 2 years ago
大赞?

fayemyy 2 years ago
this man is fooling the Chinese embassy, so mean! he performed politely, pretended warm hearted, but actually a stupid clown. the sequence is giving Nobel prize to Mr. Liu xiaobo is based on he is prisoned in China. in another word, Liu won't be prized by Noble if he is not in jail. obviously, The Noble commit is the one challenges other country's sovereignty, law? and dignity. that should not be their duty, to provoke a mess in Chinese society or try to strike down the PRC government.

ithinklikehere 2 years ago
let me tell you sth. the world today is no longer the world before china entry? into WTO. right now in WTO age, a country is not simply a county live by itself. for the people of the country, that same. if today, you cannot stop the spread of the communism, tomorrow, the communism will take over democracy. its a matter of time. just like the Nazism take over the whole world. giving the condition that PRC and CCP is much more powerful than any evil ever, things will be worse.

Sam Li 2 years ago
Jesus Chris what age are you living in? You think it's the cold era where spreading ideologies to other countries are justified? China does give a shit about what other countries do with dealing with their domestic policies. The only countries that are attempting ( and failed terribly) to spread its own ideologies is the United States. Give LXB this prize is a perfect example of them trying to tell China what to do. Of course? China's is not going to buy it.

fayemyy 2 years ago
well, you don't really trust that communism is still alive in China,? do you?
LOL, let me tell you sth, the Chinese government will be another US government, full of democracy, it takes time. and Chinese people is trying to have enough patience to wait.

ali3da 2 years ago
thinks for? your understanging of china.

Han Wang 2 years ago
亮了?

Han Marcus 2 years ago
哈哈?

Can Lcc 2 years ago
yeah good? day for chinese people

Sam Li 2 years ago
Taking advantage of embassy's generally nice attitude is ignorant. He KNOWS the Chinese people doesn't? give crap about LXB winning the prize and he still walked in there.

ithinklikehere 2 years ago
are you fucking evil? since you like to defend PRC and CCP so much and enjoy it, please go to? PRC and enjoy the treat from CCP there. OKAY?

ithinklikehere 2 years ago
and also, dont? fucking trying to represent "Chinese people". ONE evil of you is already enough. Chinese cannot afford so much evil like you.

Sam Li 2 years ago
anti-cnn.com. If you can read Chinese go there check out? how the REAL Chinese people living in China think about him. BWT the personal attack just makes you look...well, uneducated. Perhaps you should go to school and learn how to speak properly first?

CrazyJoE874 2 years ago
脸都绿了,哈哈?

lavakn 2 years ago
中国垃圾。?

ilovedenglijun 2 years ago
This ambassador mentions Freedom, Chinese law. As a Chinese from mainland, I never know what is Freedom. We have no freedom to see Youtube, Twitter, Facebook.
The fact is, the Communist Party has freedom to take? any people to prison.

xiaodreams 2 years ago
偏见和谎言站不住脚?

凯 阿 2 years ago
不得不说 这个 很犀利 哈哈哈 大使都无语了~~?

asxzaxszac 2 years ago
哈哈,无敌了?

Moljudo 2 years ago
This ambassador is indeed an outstanding gentleman. Faced with? such a provoctive intruder, he still kept his composure. If I were there, I would have given that shameless rogue a fatal punch in his ugly face.

mc100fun 2 years ago
这是谁弄进来的~~~~?

TwitterChinese 2 years ago
太强了?

Moljudo 2 years ago
Who said it owns the country? Country and people are abstract concepts. You talk to the country. Who? Just by talking to you, it means? talking to the country? You moron! When someone talk to your country, he talks to the representative of your country. As in the case of this video, when the bearded clown wishes to talk to China, he goes to the Chinese embassy, and talk to the ambassador.

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ilovedenglijun 2 years ago
Thank Dutch people. It's a big day for Chinese people.
Unfortunately, Chinese people? are prohibitted to celebrate this big day.

kunga rota 2 years ago
Wonderful. Sarcasm? at it's best. May human rights reign the planet.

Moljudo 2 years ago
What's the difference? The government is now the only legitimate representative of the country, as recognized by the United Nations. Can? you produce another one that can be called "country"? Bullshit!

Moljudo 2 years ago
This bearded clown abused Chinese hospitality to insult the Chinese diplomat. He himself should feel ashamed! The way he treated the host, never allowing? the diplomat to finish what he's saying, reveals he is shamelessly insulting the hospitable diplomat. Somehow the diplomat kept his composure, making this bearded guy look like a clownish terrorist.

fishcanswimnownow 2 years ago
4:05大使说了句"这是谁弄来的?"?

LE0REN 2 years ago
lol, so? funnny

shenkuantipang 2 years ago
哈哈.? 鲜花是最强大的武器.

frankzhlew 2 years ago
omg? hes gonna cry...

Moljudo 2 years ago
No! All the? Chinese diplomats on this video are innocent and hospitable. The ambassador kept his composure. His reaction was appropriate. It is the bearded clown with an awkward accent that should feel ashamed, because he abused Chinese hospitality.

frankzhlew 2 years ago
I heard CAPSLOCK make one's words true. ?

tree9990 2 years ago
理他作甚????

briottiger 2 years ago
哈哈哈,流氓就是流氓,装斯文还是流氓!?

scomup 2 years ago
also? Mr. Liu
为啥不能呢?

existingman 2 years ago
哈哈,非法献花。?

Tse Kyi 2 years ago
great. meaningful,simple way of show how world people care about some one who is working great? struggle for Human right , thanks Bahram Sadeghi & Dikla Zeidler. there is always reason when people ignore you,but world people know what kind of one party Chinese GOV.any way thanks.

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
btw Im also curiously surprised to find a native HKer, which you say you are, to defend the? Chinese government to such extent. Now I'm suspecting that you are not one of those who go to the rally in the Victoria Park on June 4th every year to mourn for the killed in 89.

bbly096 2 years ago
If? you yourself didn't participate in the 89 movement then you opinion is biased.

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
similarly, if you didn't live in the 1940s, you'd be biased when? you condamn Nazi's atrocities.

bbly096 2 years ago
That is precisely my point.? I'm not condemning your comment, but for this matter, I did participate in the 89 movement and experienced it first hand.

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
in principle bias is always inevitable. even though you did participate in the movement, you may still well be too small a part of it to see the whole picture. that? is why i try my best to learn the truth from various accounts, including that of the Chinese government as well (which, however, would usually be too disappointingly filled with unspecific and propaganda-like descriptions).

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
and im not challenging your personal experience. actually, i'd be glad to hear from you what you felt back then and feel right now about participating in the movement, which is also part of the real history.
and i didn't participate in it because i was way too young for that. i don't even remember watching reports on the movement as well? as the massacre. call me unqualified to pass judgement on that matter if you like, but im still searching for it.

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
For the improvements again, Mr. Deng did a great job when he decided to open China to the world. I appreciate his contribution. However, when it comes to the 89 crackdown, he, along with some other Communist hardliners, committed a terrible crime (if you bring up the US massacre cases to? argue against me, you'll do it in vain, because I will condemn the US too. there's no exception for any government)

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
I'm not denying the improvements of living conditions during the last 3 decades in China and neither is the Nobel Peace Prize Committee. Mr. Jagland was speaking in favor of China's progress while pointing? out that human rights are still to be improved before China can be a responsible great power.
If we are talking about the situation in particular, Liu does not deserve to be locked up. He has just expressed his opinion, which is one of the basic civil rights of any citizen.

karma79 2 years ago
Wow...that's great man...?

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
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well, since you bring up the WikiLeaks matter, I would say that? the US government doesn't have any more right to imprison Assange than the Chinese government to lock up Liu...so if you are trying to justify the Chinese government through the misdeeds of the US, you are missing the point here, at least I don't buy it.
Just because I blame the Chinese government doesn't mean I am on the same side with the US...so please don't hurry off imagining me? as one of those Western running dogs.

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caesardivita1 2 years ago
Well, anyway, some background should be mentioned here. At the moment our students from Leiden University? Institute for Area Studies are enjoying an activity in China embassy: Youngsters' Dialogue. So, this Mr. Zeidler, in the name of student from LIAS, spuriously intruded into the meeting. Ok, I apprecaite Mr. Liu Xiaobo's endeavor for promoting china's progress, as media has covered; I also appreciate very much Chinese Ambassador's politeness which I have witnessed.But honestly Mr.Zei, a shame

whola2010 2 years ago
haha, TG 的狗。
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forrest3189 2 years ago
Students from Leiden? University were to know more about China and Chinese people's life and they had great time in China Embassy in communicating with young diplomats. However, those who rudely interfered China domestic affairs by using human right as a cover should be blamed!

forrest3189 2 years ago
China has been making effort on human right and social development for long time. And there are always some politicians choose to ignore the achievement that China has made. The only reason for them is "China is not the same as our countries". The politicians are not crazy but keeping misleading people to blame China for everything. Chinese people choose their way of living by themselves. We don't need a foreign politician who even don't know China to pretend to be a teacher.?

forrest3189 2 years ago
Mr. Bahram Sadeghi asked the Ambassador to talk in the video, but he never listen to. He was always? trying to speak something for his own point of view which was absolutely illiberal. Since he said he was a journalist, I couldn't believe that a professional journalist would produce a report in this way. Maybe he was professional in morbid political field since this video was apparently made up of several cut part.

forrest3189 2 years ago
As a matter of fact, Mr. Bahram Sadeghi and Ms. Dikla Zeidler pretended to be students of Leiden University from where students would have a communication with young diplomats in China Embassy at that time today. The front gate was not open for Mr. Bahram? Sadeghi and Ms. Dikla Zeidler but real Leiden University students who were invited. It was actually unpolite for them to get through the gate by this mean. I think it was shame that Peace Prize were given to a criminal for political reason.

Crystalclear1818 2 years ago
Nobel peace prize was chozen by 5 people from a small country. It is not the choice of Chinese people, nor of the world. So keep the flower for the winner from your own country in the future.?

Ming-han Chen 2 years ago
Have you ever really read that article he wrote? What do you mean by national security of China? Is China so weak and so paranoid that any citizen who utters his or her mind would do such great harm as to threat China's "national security"?
Read more and think? more before you bark like a crazy dog next time. People would be more convinced.

Sam Li 2 years ago
Advocating the overthrow? of any government is a crime anywhere in the world, that includes Neitherland, the U.S and China, and that's why Liu is in prison. He deserves it. In addition, he took money from National Endowment for Democracy, that is just a big no-no. It's like taking money from Al-Qaeda and live in the U.S.

ithinklikehere 2 years ago
so fucking evil you are. anyway please go back to your homeland PRC and enjoy the life without youtube there. isn't that cool for you? and also China is China not PRC. PRC is communism controlled government. overthrow government is legitimate anywhere in the world except PRC. in Republic of China, we overthrow the government by vote, and in United States, we do it by? vote or by war against the government. so let's make it clear.

Sam Li 2 years ago
I get to choose wherever I want and that is non of your business. I may live here for while, then go back, and come back, wherever I stay, it is allowed by governments of both countries and it is non of your f***king business. As? far as the United States is concerned, I suggest you google "advocating the overthrow the federal government" and see the results. Time to wake up.

fayemyy 2 years ago
good point! The Chinese government gives the Chinese people the rights to go everywhere? in this world, the US government and other county's government is the ones block them, stop them and pick up them by many measures!

Sam Li 2 years ago
I have no idea what you are talking about. ?

fayemyy 2 years ago
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I said I agree with? you.