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http://www.rfa.org/mandarin/Xinwen/z-11162011111813.html
外媒披露：一男子天安门广场自焚抗议
2011-11-16
英国每日电讯报星期三发表文章，披露今年10月21日一名男子于北京天安门广场点火自焚抗议，但外界似乎对此却一无所知。
报道说，这名男子姓王，42岁，湖北黄冈人。他自焚的原因是不满当地法院的一份判决。报道中还附带有署名的图片为证。报道说，图片显示当时在场的 有数百人，其中不少人还拿着相机拍摄，可令人感到震惊的是，这一极为罕见的悲剧性事件却从未被任何媒体所提及，也未在互联网论坛、博客、微博等出 现过，似乎根本就没发生过这种事。文章说，虽然图片被带至北京市公安局求证、而公安局也未对此撒谎，但显然这个事件被精心掩盖起来了。文章说，若 没有这张图片的话，这位王姓男子自焚事件肯定又会被当局当作"谣言"，而中国面临的最大问题就是：缺乏真相。
这里有照片 lh5.googleusercontent.com/-f-oWTDn4jBA/T… RT
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/a-self-immolation-in-tiananmen-square-is-reported/
November 16, 2011, 12:58 pm
A Self-Immolation in Tiananmen Square Is Reported
By J. DAVID GOODMAN
A still image and live sound uploaded by a Japanese tourist on Oct. 21 appeared to be from the same self-immolation of a man, face down at left, described by The Daily Telegraph.
2011/10/21 天安門焼身自殺事件 2011 / Tiananmen Self-Immolation Incident 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O4EPkMiI35E&noredirect=1
A man set himself on fire in China's heavily policed Tiananmen Square last month, according a report in The Daily Telegraph on Wednesday, in the first known case of a self-immolation at the politically sensitive site in Beijing in nearly a decade.
China has experienced a spate of such grisly protests this year in the country's western regions by Tibetan monks challenging Chinese rule. At least 11 Tibetans have set themselves on fire, and six have died.
But the self-immolation in the heart of the Chinese capital, where plainclothes officers snuff out any hint of dissent, was the first to be reported at the square since 2003, when a man survived an attempt to light himself on fire. In January 2001, five adherents of the banned Falun Gong spiritual group, including a 12-year-old girl, set themselves on fire; two died.
A British tourist described the event to The Telegraph and provided a photograph of what he said was the charred body of the man, identified only by his last name, Wang. "This chap whipped out his lighter and set himself on fire," the tourist, Alan Brown, told the paper. He said the man was only feet away from him. "Without being melodramatic, he looked straight at me and set himself on fire."
The Chinese authorities later confirmed the event, attributing the man's actions to "discontent over the outcome of a civil litigation in a local court," The Telegraph reported. "The policemen at the scene extinguished the fire within 10 seconds and sent the man to hospital for treatment," according to a statement faxed to the Telegraph by the Beijing Public Security Bureau. "He has now pulled through."
The self-immolation occurred on Oct. 21, but despite being witnessed by foreign tourists and many Chinese steps from a massive portrait of Mao Zedong, it was not previously reported. The Telegraph said it had found no posts related to the event on the Twitter-like networks known as Weibos before their report.
In an accompanying blog post, the reporter, Peter Foster, noted that political posts on social media have been routinely suppressed by the Chinese government's Internet monitors:
Perhaps some people did register the incident on their Weibo accounts but, as is common, they were deleted by the "net nannies" who police online discussion spaces with the same zeal that plain-clothes officers police Tiananmen Square, snuffing out dissent at the first possible sign.
He adds: "We presume that such things are very rare, but after this expertly erased incident, who can say? Perhaps these things happen far more regularly than we know."
There appeared to be at least one other report of the event, by another tourist who posted a video to YouTube on Oct. 21. The video is a still-frame image that seems to be from the same event documented by The Telegraph, along with sound said to have been recorded immediately after the man set himself on fire.
The person who uploaded the video, identified as catpochi, has posted many videos of tourist sites and other events in China and Japan. The text under the video described the scene in Japanese and in English:
At around 11:15 a.m. local time in October 21, 2011, I saw a man in fire rushing toward the Tiananmen Gate in Beijing, China. At the time of the incident, I was taking pictures in front of the gate as a tourist, but happened to capture the recording as it has been my hobby to record the sound of busy sites. [Check my other recordings at http://www.youtube.com/catpochi]
There seems to be no news about this incident as of October 22, 2011, so I decided to upload this recording here.
I can easily expect to see lots of insults against Communist China and the Chinese. It is waste of public space, you do it in your brain. On the other hand, you are welcome to ask questions about what I saw during the incident. I will answer them as objectively as I can. I don't understand Mandarin. If you figure out what people were saying, please leave the comments.
0:00 Beginning of the recording
0:33 Woman Yelling – Perhaps she recognized the guy in fire
0:40 "Uh" – Me recognizing what was going on
0:54 Police started using extinguisher.
2:27 Two policemen grabbed the guy's arms and dragged to the police/ambulance car
2:35 A policeman yelled at a guy shooting a video
The events leading up the man's actions in October were not immediately known. The authorities said he was from the city of Huanggang in the central Hubei Province but did not elaborate on the nature of the legal issue that was said to have precipitated his self-immolation.
After the 2001 self-immolations in Tiananmen Square, there was a similar lack of independent information, leading to warring propaganda efforts with widely differing accounts from the government and the Falun Gong and a steady stream of conspiracy theories online, including over details in video — released by the government — of flaming bodies being extinguished in the square.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O4EPkMiI35E&noredirect=1
2011/10/21 天安門焼身自殺事件 2011 / Tiananmen Self-Immolation Incident 2011
录音下载： https://www.wuala.com/renyun.net/Date/2011/10/21/
Uploaded by catpochi on Oct 21, 2011
2011年10月21日、午前11時15分前後のこと。北京・天安門前で、火達磨になった 男性を見ました。私は単なる観光客として、天安門の写真を撮っているところでした
10月22日現在、この事件に関するニュースは一切報道されていません。よって、私はこの機会にこの録音を公にすることとしました。
このようなことが起これば、中共及び中国人全般に対する罵倒が始まります。しかし実りのない罵倒はスペースの無駄でしかないので、自分の 頭の中だけでやって下さい。
対して、この事件に関する質問があれば投稿をお願いします。出来るだけ客観的な記述でお答えします。
さらに、私は北京語を介しません。理解される方で何か特別なことが聞こえた方は、投稿して下さい。
以下は時系列
0:00 録音中 - それ以前は何の変哲もない街の音でした
0:33 女性の声 - おそらく火達磨になった男性に気付いた声
0:40 私の声"あぁ" - 私が振り向いた方向に男性を認めた時
0:54 消火器噴霧開始
2:27 公安2人が男性の腕をつかんで、引きずり始める
2:35 公安がビデオを撮っていた男性に向かって怒鳴る
参考
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%96%80%E7%84%BC%E8%BA%AB%E8...
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At around 11:15 a.m. local time in October 21, 2011, I saw a man in fire rushing toward the Tianamen Gate in Beijing, China. At the time of the incident, I was taking pictures in front of the Gate as a tourist, but happened to capture the recording as it has been my hobby to record the sound of busy sites. [Check my other recordings at http://www.youtube.com/catpochi]
There seems to be no news about this incident as of October 22, 2011, so I decided to upload this recording here.
I can easily expect to see lots of insults against Communist China and the Chinese. It is waste of public space, you do it in your brain.
On the other hand, you are welcome to ask questions about what I saw during the incident. I will answer them as objectively as I can.
I don't understand Mandarin. If you figure out what people were saying, please leave the comments.
0:00 Beginning of the recording
0:33 Woman Yelling - Perhaps she recognized the guy in fire
0:40 "Uh" - Me recognizing what was going on
0:54 Police started using extinguisher.
2:27 Two policemen grabbed the guy's arms and dragged to the police/ambulance car
2:35 A policeman yelled at a guy shooting a video
Reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_self-immolation_incident
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100117856/tiananmen-square-self-immolation-where-truth-is-swept-away-into-a-dustmans-cart/
Tiananmen Square self-immolation: where truth is swept away into a dustman's cart
Even after nearly three years reporting in China, there is still something amazing about the fact that a man can set himself on fire in Tiananmen Square, in broad daylight, and then no one hears or says a word about it.
As it happens, the incident we report today that occurred on October 21st was witnessed by a Telegraph reader who photographed the aftermath and – after hearing nothing more about it – decided it was right to alert the wider world.
The picture shows several hundred people who must have also witnessed what happened after Mr Wang, a 42-year-old man from Huanggang in Hubei, set himself on fire in protest at a court judgment that, we must presume, he felt was so unfair his only recourse was to self-immolate.
Such incidents, which are not completely uncommon in China, reflect the frustration faced by ordinary people as they seek justice from a system of courts and government that offers little recourse to the weak.
Mr Brown recalls that "everyone" was taking pictures of the incident, but despite extensive online searches we cannot find any record of the incident: not in the state media, commercial media or on in the freer discussion forums of QQ or Sina Weibo (Chinese Twitter).
Perhaps some people did register the incident on their Weibo accounts but, as is common, they were deleted by the "net nannies" who police online discussion spaces with the same zeal that plain-clothes officers police Tiananmen Square, snuffing out dissent at the first possible sign.
As the power and prevalence of Weibo grows, it has become increasingly difficult for the authorities to suppress unwanted and unpalatable news, as has been seen this year over protests in Dalian, with the "Barefoot lawyer" Chen Guangcheng and over the Wenzhou rail disaster.
But as this incident shows, they also succeed, and in the nature of that suppression, it is impossible to know the ratio of successes to failures.
Asking around some old correspondents here in China, no one can remember a self-immolation incident in Tiananmen Square since 2001 when five people – allegedly Falun Gong practitioners – self-immolated.
We presume that such things are very rare, but after this expertly erased incident, who can say? Perhaps these things happen far more regularly than we know.
Credit to the Beijing Public Security Bureau for not lying about the incident when presented with the photographic evidence, but it is the preceding cover-up that begs the questions – that so fogs the slippery relationship in China between the State, the people and the truth.
Ironically the Chinese government is in the midst of a major crackdown on "false rumours" on the internet, and yet this kind of story, when it emerges, is exactly why no one believes the government or officialdom in China, and why rumours have such currency.
No doubt, without the photographic evidence, Mr Wang's self-immolation would have been another subversive "rumour" to suppress. This is the single biggest problem facing the Chinese state, the one from which all its other difficulties flow: the absence of truth.
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